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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So it’s a proprietary initial login to an OP (that happens
to do some encrypted file store stuff, possibly leveraging the proprietary
token for key management). This seems useful, if yuou think that store holding
the same kind of consent/audit/release logs that myopenid keeps around (tracling/tracing
your communications with RPs)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Once you have a session, it happens to offer openid assertions
to SPs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The behavior seems similar to the Google BlogSpot service,
where you had to first login to BlogSpot using google proprietary means, and
only then could you leave an authenticated comment on the blogspot site using some
(or other ) OP. In reality Google was tracking your comment using the
proprietary means, but one was present in the OP name to comment readers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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general-bounces@openid.net [mailto:general-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew
Arnott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 20, 2009 11:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Messina<br>
<b>Cc:</b> DiSo Project; OpenID List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Verisign Announces Free OpenID Digital Lockbox<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Sorry... this doesn't seem like
OpenID authentication to me. Verisign only lets you log into the vault
using your PIP account, which although PIP is an OpenID Provider, means that
OpenID has nothing to do with your authentication experience. You can't
use any openid to log in -- you just log in with your PIP username and
password, and a hardware credential that costs at least $30 to boot.<br
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--<br>
Andrew Arnott<br>
"I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death
your right to say it." - Voltaire<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Chris Messina <<a
href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I find this very interesting:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://infosecurity.us/?p=6437" target="_blank">http://infosecurity.us/?p=6437</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://blogs.verisign.com/innovation/2009/02/pip_update_a_free_secure_digit.php"
target="_blank">http://blogs.verisign.com/innovation/2009/02/pip_update_a_free_secure_digit.php</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>It's how it works over OpenID that is most compelling
(though this is really just the OpenID + OAuth hybrid, minus OAuth):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:#0000EE'><a
href="http://infosecurity.us/images/openid_protocol.png" target="_blank">http://infosecurity.us/images/openid_protocol.png</a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So basically it's like MobileMe attached to your OpenID,
with the ability to provide delegated access!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Chris<br>
-- <br>
Chris Messina<br>
Citizen-Participant &<br>
Open Web Advocate-at-Large<br>
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This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private<o:p></o:p></p>
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