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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is the Achilles heel of OpenID.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Within the openid framework, for now we could just ensure that
by standardized AX processes, users can register a CTL of *<b>their</b>* trusted
CAs at each consumer – to aid _<i>subsequent</i>_ recognition/discovery of
the user’s syno-nyms that delegate to the CTL-introducing OP. AX is a registration
mechanism, that facilitates delegation to the users choice of source https
domain.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What a globally scalable OpenID trust model for https URLs needs
is a properly-designed source tree routing/resolution protocol, something
akin to pages 32-40 in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.nanog.org/mtg-9806/ppt/davemeyer/davemeyer.PPT">http://www.nanog.org/mtg-9806/ppt/davemeyer/davemeyer.PPT</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>By analogy, the “public CAs” used at OPs needs to
play the role of sparse-mode PIM “Rendezvous Points” , seeking to connect
“receivers” (openid consumers) to the many data “sources”
(the many user vanity openids). In the course of registration, the https roots
selected by the source (=USER) are communicated to the assertion-consumer sites,
as the “url” (read multicast!) routing converges - linking the consumer
https-realms to the user’s vanity https-realms, on a per group basis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>OpenID really does have a classical routing problem, exercised
through urls rather than subnets.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> general-bounces@openid.net
[mailto:general-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Ellin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 26, 2009 9:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> board@openid.net; general@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] [OpenID board] Members Login broken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Eddy,<br>
<br>
RPX recently switched to using a list of standard certificate authorities that
happened to not include StartSSL (<a href="https://www.startssl.com/">https://www.startssl.com/</a>),
the issuer of your SSL certificate. We'll be updating our CA list to
include include StartSSL shortly.<br>
<br>
Sorry for the inconvenience.<br>
<br>
Brian Ellin<br>
JanRain<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
<<a href="mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org">eddy_nigg@startcom.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 01/25/2009 04:29 AM, David Fuelling: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Member Login is working for me at present.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>It did for me as well previously. :-(<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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IMHO, the foundation has other things to worry about than making sure the
website technology is working properly. We should be paying people to do
that for core/key technology where volunteer help is either too slow, or
non-existent.<br>
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Let's let the OpenID community members concentrate on spec-writing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Except that we discussed previously that we want a vendor
neutral interface at the OpenID Foundation web sites.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Regards <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Signer: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg, <a href="http://www.startcom.org"
target="_blank">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Jabber: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>startcom@startcom.org<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://blog.startcom.org" target="_blank">Join
the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>+1.213.341.0390<o:p></o:p></p>
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