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color:#1F497D'>This general topic has been confusing me for a week (being dumb).
Reading the spec further helped zero (seeing as it’s minimalist and abstruse)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Enter an https URL at pbwiki, the OP (myopenid) will do
its things over foreground https, but the resulting challenge screen only petitions
for user auth about my http:// openid claim (which I didn’t make). It
sends back an positive assertion about the https:/../ form though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Myopenid presented the https claim in its UI (over foreground https)
in other RP cases - the openid foundation blog site, as I 49% recall.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Can one properly present a https claim to an OP that does not advertise
an https-capable OP endpoint?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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general-bounces@openid.net [mailto:general-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew
Arnott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eric Norman<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OpenID List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Bug in OpenID RP implementations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Eric,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I believe it is exactly the problem that Peter is facing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Regarding the behavior you saw, Eric, DotNetOpenId doesn't
ever demote https to http (or if so it would be a bug), but it will go through <em>all</em>
endpoints listed for a given OpenID and chooses from among that list. So
if your OpenID has multiple service endpoints listed (through an XRDS file) can
you check whether a non HTTPS OP Endpoint is among the list?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'd very much like to know the particular OpenID you were
trying it with so I can examine the behavior if you'd care to share (perhaps
off the list if you wish).<o:p></o:p></p>
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--<br>
Andrew Arnott<br>
"I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death
your right to say it." - Voltaire<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Eric Norman <<a
href="mailto:ejnorman@doit.wisc.edu">ejnorman@doit.wisc.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Andrew Arnott wrote:<br>
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> Because of that, the list of CAs that work with <a
href="http://nerdbank.org/" target="_blank">http://nerdbank.org</a> is<br>
> whatever list GoDaddy happens to use (since they happen to host that<br>
> web site).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>That may be the case, but it's probably not relevant or at
best<br>
only a part of the problem.<br>
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When I tried going to <a href="http://nerdbank.org/rp" target="_blank">nerdbank.org/rp</a>
and typing in an OpenID<br>
that starts with "https:", the server at nerdbank changed it<br>
to "http:" and used that to connect with my OP. Other than<br>
the fact that I don't appreciate the weakening of security,<br>
it also failed and said "Login failed: The 'openid.identity'<br>
parameter was expected to have the value 'https:...' but had<br>
'http:...' instead".<br>
<span style='color:#888888'><br>
Eric Norman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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