I would be fine with such a setup -- but anything like this should happen **post-election** in order to avoid any kind of "October Surprise"[1] which would distract from the task at hand -- namely, vetting and electing a new board. <br>
<br>(though I still think the software that OIDF uses to vote should be open for public inspection, if only ~eventutally~).<br><br>David<br><br>[1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise</a><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Peter Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pwilliams@rapattoni.com">pwilliams@rapattoni.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ill offer ~8h of my own time to look at the openid-related part
of the election software and its operational configuration. Since it's my
time (not Board time, not Community time) its too important to folks if its
wasted. I won't be offended if folks think I'm not qualified to
even look at the code, as a trained software engineer (25 years) or professional
security engineer (15+ years).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Now I don't even know what language it was written in, or
if I know it! But, it doesn't matter. After 25 years of looking at other
people's (usually legacy) code, Ive learned to apply smell tests
regardless of code or application problem. (I even managed to dominate Boo for
a week or two, used in one of the openid 1.1 libraries!)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If anything derails (pun) this election, it's would be bad
PR that the voting methods were not transparent - particularly in the application
of openid identity verification/validation. But transparency is our own community
metric.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Now, Of course this voting apparatus would not not pass
the public election laws on voting machines; no one ever assumed it would! It's
just a fun application of openid. So let's see what people thought was important
in the design/operating criteria.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Formally, however, folks have a situation in which we are
promoting openid, by using it. (Great!) And, folks are using are for a (highly)
legal matter: grant certain authorities from the incorporation documents to
directors, officers, board secretaries, etc. Not that I have the slightest
authority, Id recommend as much transparency as folks can afford. I'll thus
offer 8h of my time (for free), focusing only on the use made of the openid +
https modules – as reflected in code and operational config.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The code does not have to even be compliable or
executable. 30m phone time with its main programmer would be helpful, to help
navigate the code base and the organization of the deployment.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">general-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">general-bounces@openid.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dick
Hardt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sappenin@gmail.com" target="_blank">sappenin@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> OpenID List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Several Questions for the Current & Future
Board</span></p>
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<p>On 11-Dec-08, at 10:30 PM, David Fuelling wrote:</p>
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<p>Hey all,<br>
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I have a few questions for either the current or future board members:</p>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li>What kind of software are we using for the
election, who created it, and will it be released publicly for
audit/inspection purposes?</li>
</ol>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li>Do current candidate have an opinion about
OIDF voting software being publicly inspectable/available?</li>
</ol>
</ol>
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<p>Perhaps as a Canadian, I have trust in an elections
committee. While I have don't oppose the software being public -- I think we
have so many other things that are better use of our time.<br>
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<ol start="2" type="1">
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li> </li>
</ol>
</ol>
<ol start="3" type="1">
<li>Does the OIDF currently make it's budget and
financial expenditure information public?</li>
</ol>
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<p>As Treasurer, I ensured that both were and are public
information. They are in the board mailing list archives.</p>
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<ol start="2" type="1">
<li> </li>
</ol>
<ol start="2" type="1">
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li>Do current candidate have a position on
providing full financial transparency of OIDF moving forward?</li>
</ol>
</ol>
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<p>I would hope we would continue on with the transparency.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">-- Dick</p>
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