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<p class=MsoNormal>. A mainstream website might trust any IDP who is
hosted by a known SaaS vendor. However for the longer-tail we may see a
need for companies who build a business out of validating the UI/reliability of
IDPs and selling those lists to other websites.<o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>This seems very SAML-notion centric, based on architectural forms
~5 years old. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Isn’t the ___user___ supposed to be in charge, in OpenID?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Isn’t that the CRUX of what openid is all about and
what makes it different to SAML (other than needing SSL/PKI and using
name/value pairs and XRDS markup …instead of the SAML markup and xmldsig?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>OpenID is not an idp-centric federation concept . OpenID is not
an sp-centric federation concept. It CLAIMS/CLAIMED to be a user-centric (federation)
concept – a model seekingto differentiate itself from the well-known hangups
of the previous 2 concepts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I have to admit, from the trends I see, and in the hands of
the “big players”: OpenID is turning into a simple lightweight version
of SAML2, featuring the idp-centric model. If one uses the unsolicited assertion
model, it does do a damn good impression of SAML1, too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have to admit I don’t think we in realty, could really care
less. But, what was always interesting/revolutionary about openid was the
model, not the swap of bits. If OpenID is just a lightweight SAML, all I need
to do is stick a protocol gateway on the front of the SAML endpoints we already
have, and be done with it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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