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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is interesting Eddy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I kind of see three ways that this kind of OpenID “verification”
can happen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Reputation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In this
case, the longer you use your OpenID, the more people will come to know it is
associated with you. I’d be interested in how we could explicitly extend this
concept to support a distributed reputation system where you can attach OpenID
Reputation points which are assigned from other sites. These could even be broken
down into types of reputation. The longer and more you use it the more
reputation points. Even sending an email that isn’t spam etc via Gmail or
Windows Live could “increment” your reputation score (like pagerank, but for
OpenID). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Friend Verification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Slightly
more explicit and extension of the above whereby friends can verify things you
write down about yourself so that others can trust them more. John says he
works at Google Inc and Brian has verified this etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Central Validation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Shibboleth
model and probably needed for institutions who perhaps verify things such as “Yes,
this is definitely Dr. Livingstone” etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Does your Web of Trust concept tie in more with number 3 than
the others or is if more about associating an OpenID with a cert so that saying
something with your OpenID can be strongly verified (e.g. via the associated
dig sig?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>steven<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>http://livz.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
[mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 November 2008 09:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Steven Livingstone-Perez<br>
<b>Cc:</b> general@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Real Identity Verification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Arrrrg... <a href="https://blog.startcom.org/?p=128">https://blog.startcom.org/?p=128</a><br>
<br>
Sorry and thanks!<br>
<br>
On 11/04/2008 11:37 AM, Steven Livingstone-Perez: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Eddy, where can I find this article?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a
href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net">general-bounces@openid.net</a> [<a
href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net">mailto:general-bounces@openid.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 November 2008 09:31<br>
<b>To:</b> Rebecca Cannon<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Real Identity Verification</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Rebecca, I forgot about it, but let me shamelessly promote a
small article concerning identity validation in relation to OpenID I just wrote
recently. Here validations including ones which are performed by a community
network come into play. Thanks. :-)<br>
<br>
On 11/04/2008 11:23 AM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.): <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>There are some providers which
can provide you this service, please see <a
href="http://www.startssl.com/?app=14">http://www.startssl.com/?app=14</a><br>
For example my ID is here: <a href="https://eddyn.startssl.com/">https://eddyn.startssl.com/</a><br>
<br>
However no useful exchange protocol or standard for OpenID exists really to
automatically on such information, but Nat, who also posted a reply to your
question, is working on setting up a work group for trust exchange (TX) which
might facilitate such exchange of information. I expect TX to be highly
interesting in this respect.<br>
<br>
For now I guess you'll have to hand-pick the providers which do perform real
identity validations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg, <a href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 11/04/2008 07:10 AM, Rebecca Cannon: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi all<br>
<br>
I'm researching a new online service that I will be building. I want to use
Open ID, however we're going to require real-world identification verification,
as the service will have legally binding information in it.<br>
<br>
Just wondering whether open id is being used with real-world identification
verification, and what the list's thoughts are on this. <br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Rebecca</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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