On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Martin Atkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mart@degeneration.co.uk">mart@degeneration.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
David Fuelling wrote:<br>
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I agree. It may not be a good assumption, but my impression is that my OpenID (<a href="http://openid.sappenin.com" target="_blank">http://openid.sappenin.com</a>) is going to be "under my control" and "appropriate to use" for a much longer time than my common email addresses (<a href="mailto:something@gmail.com" target="_blank">something@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:something@gmail.com" target="_blank">something@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:somethingelse@yahoo.com" target="_blank">somethingelse@yahoo.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:somethingelse@yahoo.com" target="_blank">somethingelse@yahoo.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:personal@sappenin.com" target="_blank">personal@sappenin.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:personal@sappenin.com" target="_blank">personal@sappenin.com</a>>, etc) because it makes sense to use different email addresses throughout my day, year, and life -- whereas I forsee being able to use the same OpenID URL forever (as long as <a href="http://sappenin.com" target="_blank">sappenin.com</a> <<a href="http://sappenin.com" target="_blank">http://sappenin.com</a>> is around, at least). In my opinion, one more reason (user convenience) to just map an email address to an OpenID (XRI or URL).<br>
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That sounds more like an argument for you to use <a href="http://sappenin.com/" target="_blank">http://sappenin.com/</a> as your identifier instead of an email address.<br>
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If you want to use a HTTP URL for your identifier, just enter that URL into the RP directly!<br>
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</blockquote></div><br>For me, an internet-savvy, genius technology person (tongue-in-cheek), you're right. I know what it means to use the URL, and I do. However, my grandmother, who's a little bit less tech-savvy (she still calls the Internet "email"), she has no idea that she should be using a URL, let alone what the distinction is. We need to be thinking about these people, and about their future freedoms. Like it or not, people are going to be using email addresses as their primary identifier -- as the designers of this stuff, we need to plan ahead and add flexibility for them ahead of time.<br>
<br><joking>This is about our children, and our children's children, and about getting people to stop calling the Internet: "the email"</joking><br><br>David<br><br>