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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>He he – my mum *<b>still</b>* calls it that (sometimes she
says “Google”) and I agree we need to think of these people.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And latching onto the other localization thread, if she were to use
“the email” in Spain and used an OpenID that wasn’t localized
she’s switch off the computer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This kind of user doesn’t care whether things are
technically beautiful or not - they just want the experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> David Fuelling
[mailto:sappenin@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 October 2008 15:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Atkins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Steven Livingstone-Perez; OpenID List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] OpenID based on email addresses... Just Works!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Martin Atkins <<a
href="mailto:mart@degeneration.co.uk">mart@degeneration.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>David Fuelling wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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I agree. It may not be a good assumption, but my impression is that my
OpenID (<a href="http://openid.sappenin.com" target="_blank">http://openid.sappenin.com</a>)
is going to be "under my control" and "appropriate to use"
for a much longer time than my common email addresses (<a
href="mailto:something@gmail.com" target="_blank">something@gmail.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:something@gmail.com" target="_blank">something@gmail.com</a>>,
<a href="mailto:somethingelse@yahoo.com" target="_blank">somethingelse@yahoo.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:somethingelse@yahoo.com" target="_blank">somethingelse@yahoo.com</a>>,
<a href="mailto:personal@sappenin.com" target="_blank">personal@sappenin.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:personal@sappenin.com" target="_blank">personal@sappenin.com</a>>,
etc) because it makes sense to use different email addresses throughout my day,
year, and life -- whereas I forsee being able to use the same OpenID URL
forever (as long as <a href="http://sappenin.com" target="_blank">sappenin.com</a>
<<a href="http://sappenin.com" target="_blank">http://sappenin.com</a>> is
around, at least). In my opinion, one more reason (user convenience) to
just map an email address to an OpenID (XRI or URL).<o:p></o:p></p>
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That sounds more like an argument for you to use <a href="http://sappenin.com/"
target="_blank">http://sappenin.com/</a> as your identifier instead of an email
address.<br>
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If you want to use a HTTP URL for your identifier, just enter that URL into the
RP directly!<o:p></o:p></p>
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For me, an internet-savvy, genius technology person (tongue-in-cheek), you're
right. I know what it means to use the URL, and I do. However, my
grandmother, who's a little bit less tech-savvy (she still calls the Internet
"email"), she has no idea that she should be using a URL, let alone
what the distinction is. We need to be thinking about these people, and
about their future freedoms. Like it or not, people are going to be using
email addresses as their primary identifier -- as the designers of this stuff,
we need to plan ahead and add flexibility for them ahead of time.<br>
<br>
<joking>This is about our children, and our children's children, and
about getting people to stop calling the Internet: "the
email"</joking><br>
<br>
David<o:p></o:p></p>
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