>> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">I'd be interested in how Google thinks users will login with their OpenID if they can't type in <a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(119, 153, 187); ">gmail.com</a> or <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(119, 153, 187); ">google.com</a> -- these should work. Will they?</span><br>
<br><div>Since this is the first phase of our launch, we need to make sure it works stability (and with good usability feedback, including on validating the translation of our UI into 40+ languages) before we can claim that lots of RPs should use it. Therefore there is currently a whitelist of supported RPs.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If we published an XRDS file for <a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a> that worked automatically with existing RPs doing directed identity, then it would break for users because their RPs would not be on the whitelist.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Once we are able to remove the whitelist, then we can post the XRDS file for <a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a> without breaking existing RPs who allow users to type domain names for directed identity.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Eric Sachs</div><div>Product Manager, Google Security</div><div><br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Dick Hardt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">"<a href="http://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id" target="_blank">www.google.com/accounts/o8/id</a>"?<br>
<br>
gosh, I'll remember that one! :-)<br>
<br>
Given the non memorable openid generated by Google, I'd be interested<br>
in how Google thinks users will login with their OpenID if they can't<br>
type in <a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a> or <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> -- these should work. Will they?<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
-- Dick<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
On 29-Oct-08, at 10:38 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:<br>
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> At this point, you can discover using <a href="http://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id" target="_blank">www.google.com/accounts/o8/id</a> as<br>
> your OP identifier if you so wish. However, initially we will require<br>
> registration. Thanks.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Andrew Arnott <<a href="mailto:andrewarnott@gmail.com">andrewarnott@gmail.com</a><br>
> > wrote:<br>
>> Forgive my apparent ignorance, but this doesn't look like a<br>
>> standard OpenID<br>
>> Provider. I just tried to log into my own RP typing in<br>
>> "<a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>" to use<br>
>> directed identity, since I have no idea what my own identifier URL<br>
>> would be,<br>
>> and no endpoints were found. Also tried "<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>".<br>
>> When I read the blog, it mentioned OpenID but the link was to<br>
>> register for<br>
>> federated login. I thought Shibboleth was about federated login<br>
>> and OpenID<br>
>> was about letting any RP log into an IDP. Why does an RP have to<br>
>> register<br>
>> with Google before using its IDP? And even if it registered, that<br>
>> can't<br>
>> automatically make "<a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>" discoverable, so this doesn't feel<br>
>> like<br>
>> OpenID at all to me.<br>
>><br>
>> Unhappy, but hoping someone can explain it to me.<br>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Eric Sachs <<a href="mailto:esachs@google.com">esachs@google.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Google's IDP is now live. You can try it on Plaxo, ZoHo, & Buxfer<br>
>>> and<br>
>>> hopefully more RPs to come soon. Here is the blog post with more<br>
>>> details,<br>
>>> including information on how RPs can sign up to use the service:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008/10/google-moves-towards-single-sign-on.html" target="_blank">http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008/10/google-moves-towards-single-sign-on.html</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> And yes, it does allow RPs to request a user's E-mail address via<br>
>>> AX as an<br>
>>> option. I'll let Joseph Smarr from Plaxo respond with details on<br>
>>> how they<br>
>>> are using that feature to further simplify the signup flow for<br>
>>> Plaxo.<br>
>>> Eric Sachs<br>
>>> Product Manager, Google Security<br>
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