Well, I would take it for granted that we must put in resources to develop a rigorous test suite, and that the OpenID Foundation should take the lead on both sponsoring and leading this work.<div><br></div><div>So far Higgins has been doing a great deal of work in a related area, but without a specific emphasis on OpenID.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is one of the reasons why I suggested the move of the code repository -- so that we could go through and make sure everything is working and that we can contact the maintainers of each library and get some movement and momentum there.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I also think that the current wiki solution is not only an eye-sore, but as I experienced, is counter-productive to getting anything done as there's no way (right now) to successfully authenticate in order to make changes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm absolutely willing to help improve this situation (as I've done similar work on the OAuth.net site and wiki (<a href="http://wiki.oauth.net">wiki.oauth.net</a>)). I just need the organizational wherewithal to give me the leeway to do so (of course I'm not interested in stepping on anyone's toes, but if I can work in parallel, we could move things over once something new is in place).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Chris<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Johannes Ernst <span dir="ltr"><jernst+<a href="http://openid.net">openid.net</a>@<a href="http://netmesh.us">netmesh.us</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On Oct 15, 2008, at 21:36 , Chris Messina wrote:<br>
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I'll volunteer to transfer this document to the OpenID wiki, but it's not accepting my OpenID, so I'm stymied and can't proceed.<br>
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For OpenID to take the step from "see, mom, it works" to everyday life, we need to do better. OpenID needs to work 100% of time when the user expects it to work. I think we all have come across too many non-working OP / RP combinations. There are many reasons why certain combinations don't work (e.g. OpenID 1 vs. 2), but nobody really cares who is a user who wants to get a job done.<br>
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What can we do to get to 100%?<br>
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Traditionally, what people have done is defined interoperability test suites, required that all vendors pass the test suites, and made the use of the brand (here: the OpenID logo) dependent on passing the test suites.<br>
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So far, we have not done this in OpenID.<br>
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Do we need to?<br>
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