<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 13-Oct-08, at 11:46 AM, Eric Sachs wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">In September/October both Google and Yahoo posted some Usability Research on Federated Login:<br> <div style="margin-left: 40px;">Google <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/UXFedLogin" style="outline-style: none; color: rgb(85, 26, 139);">Presentation</a><span> </span>at OpenID Foundation on September 18, 2008</div> <div style="margin-left: 40px;">Yahoo<span> </span><a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/openid/bestpractices.html" rel="nofollow" style="outline-style: none; color: rgb(85, 26, 139);">UX Research</a><span> </span>on their IDP endpoint</div> </span><br>Both companies have been asked for suggestions on how to merge the feedback from these two sets of research. Allen Tom & I have been exchanging mail about how to do that, and here is one way to merge the set of conclusions:<br><ol><li><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div> Based on the test Yahoo & Gmail have done earlier in the year, we already both believe that any "login" buttons have to include the brand of the IDP and must be right next to the login box. While that might not scale nor promote the OpenID technology brand, that is just the fact of life. </div></span></li></ol></div></blockquote>I don't agree is it a fact of life. It is a fact that it is a conclusion from your study, but it is not a fact that the RP should decide on a few IdPs to promote on their page. </div><div><br></div><div>I do agree that a mechanism to let a most users know they can use an IdP of their choosing is a good thing. A smart client could do that.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Dick</div></body></html>