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<FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Smart doesn’t imply good member of society... I make of that, simply, that they don’t care and rather have tight control over their entire stack.<BR>
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As for Yahoo!, I wasn’t here long enough to know the details, but there is no reason to tell people you are about to release a product, but my understanding is that Yahoo! participated in the RP discovery flow.<BR>
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On 9/17/08 1:18 PM, "Hans Granqvist" <<a href="hans@granqvist.com">hans@granqvist.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>>> I don't think that the Facebook team wanted to reinvent anything -- so<BR>
>> if the tech was already available to do what they wanted, they would<BR>
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> (No one expects me to be polite about this one)<BR>
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> HORSESHIT!<BR>
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> First, they never made the effort to truly engage the community and understand either specifications. Second, for the most part, they reused existing Facebook pieces to create Facebook Connect. Those pieces could have been converted or added support for OpenID and OAuth a long time ago. And third, this is exactly what they wanted to do - these are some of the brightest minds in the industry and they know what they are doing.<BR>
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If FB are "some of the brightest minds in the industry and they know<BR>
what they are doing" and they chose *not* to implement OpenID or<BR>
OAuth, what shall we make of that?<BR>
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Hans<BR>
PS. Yahoo didn't "engage the community" with OpenID at all until after<BR>
it was a done deal.<BR>
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