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Jeetendra Mirchandani:
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<p><span lang="EN-US">This is a question for all those website owners
in India, who
have been around for a while, and those who have started new ventures
recently.
Let me list down possible reasons I can think of, as if I were to own a
website
targeted towards Indians</span></p>
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All of the above might be correct (from the point of view of the web
site owners of course). Here my $0.02....<br>
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<li><span lang="EN-US">Indian users dont know what OpenID is</span></li>
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Very likely! Isn't this the reason for your foundation and mission
thereof?<br>
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<li><span lang="EN-US">Your traffic is reluctant to use a URL as a
username, they are just more comfortable with the old traditional way
of having a user name and password</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US">You, the website owner, wants to build a
user base. And users signing in via an OpenID aren't really users that
you own (Or atleast thats what you think?)</span></li>
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From the user perspective that's certainly not really valid. For OpenID
users, when offered OpenID login on a site they are more willing to
register then without. It's only the authentication which is
"outsourced" not the user base itself. That's a point which needs
education perhaps.<br>
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<li><span lang="EN-US">You don't trust that OpenID provider is
secure enough. You are responsible for any user data, and don't want
the third-party provider to be involved in how secure your user data is</span></li>
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Allow only providers you trust. It's easy as that.<br>
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<li>OpenID implementation is very complicated</li>
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This is a valid point and most popular blogs, forums require some extra
work to have OpenID login. Certainly for implementing your own login
facility. Until the big web applications don't ship OpenID built-in
(like WordPress, Phpbb forum, wikimedia) this is a hurdle.<br>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">With the same argument, point 4 is also not
totally valid!
A user understands who to trust, and build up that trust over time.
With big
players like </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://openid.yahoo.com/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">Yahoo
providing OpenID</span></a><span lang="EN-US">, I think this
barrier is gone.</span></p>
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I don't view Yahoo as a secure provider, sorry.<br>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">And if you say OpenID implementation is
complicated, you
need to look around. The </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://openid.net/developers/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">developers
section on openid.net </span></a><span lang="EN-US">could be a good
starting point.</span></p>
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That's a lame argument. For many implementation is impossible or very
burdensome. See above...the most popular web applications need to ship
OpenID built-in!<br>
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