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Never attribute to malice that which can be safely explained by a bug;
there is no intent to require one to be signed in with a Google account
in order to use an OpenID. But: I still can't reproduce this. Just
left a comment alongside yours, after signing out of my Google account
and using my jpanzer.myopenid.com OpenID:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.abstractioneer.org/2008/02/openid-foundation-google-yahoo.html">http://www.abstractioneer.org/2008/02/openid-foundation-google-yahoo.html</a><br>
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So clearly there's something going wrong but I'm having difficulty
reproducing what you're seeing. Could you mail me off-list with the
detailed steps, OS, browser, combo you're using? <br>
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Peter Williams wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I cannot say the mystery is solved, but I made some
progress. </div>
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Now to Facts </div>
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<div dir="ltr">- creating a google account takes moments</div>
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<div dir="ltr">- one can setup blogger service from the dashboard</div>
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<div dir="ltr">- One can alter settings and comments, to allow
commenting by "registered users, including openid".</div>
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<div dir="ltr">- once logged into Google Account, the blog owner can
leave an authenticated comment on <a
href="http://openid2.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://openid2.blogspot.com/</a>.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">- once logged into Google Account, I could leave an
authenticated comment on John's blogger comment form.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Conjecture:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Be it Bug or "designer-bug", it appears (a) one must
have a Google Account (b) be subject to its (hardly onerous) legal
provisions, (c) be signed in as a subscriber.... to leave an
authenticated comment using the pseudoanonymising features of leaving a
comment as a "registered user - via OpenID".</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Interesting apparent legal strategy on Google's part,
which really doesn't surprise me (given the sheer risk of being a
relying party in UK/US). The subscriber leaving the comment is required
to be and must assert to be Google Account member, subject to Google
legal terms.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Is this policy "consistent" with the UCI component of
the "UCI" vision, folks? </div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm kind of disappointed (tho not totally surprised at
a gigafirm with giga reliance-time risks protecting itself
legally, this way).</div>
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<div dir="ltr">If the Blogger anonymous URL feature works as one
might expect, there may be an opportunity for a sxipper type
plugin/service (which Ive still never used, sorry I dont use FF) to act
as a proxy OpenID consumer, form-posting a "unique trackback-openid'
into the Google anonymous URL commenting field, that tracksback back to
the actual consumed openid presented from the sxipper log files.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> John Panzer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue 3/25/2008 7:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Williams<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Google Blogger and openid. Does it
really work? (today?)<br>
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<div>So, commenting on Blogger using my ID <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/"
target="_blank">http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/</a> works fine for me (on
FF2 and IE7). For Peter it appears that something is failing and
Blogger is acting as if a non-OpenID URL was entered. Anyone else care
to try?<br>
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Peter Williams wrote:
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks
for trying, John. Using your parameters made no difference; pdf
evidence attached. I would not normally discuss a particular vendor
(unlike the work of open source projects... who usually relish out the
air time), but its such a high profile claim for OpenID2 adoption that
Blogger works.... that it NEEDS to work NOW, for the average Joe
against the OpenID gold standard - "myopenid" URLs.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> John Panzer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue 3/25/2008 3:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Williams<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:general@openid.net" target="_blank">general@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Google Blogger and openid. Does it
really work? (today?)<br>
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<div>Blogger is currently at OpenID 1.1 and doesn't yet support
i-names (@blog*lockbox). I was able to publish a comment using <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/</a>.
Obviously I can't test the others :).<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.abstractioneer.org/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.abstractioneer.org/</a> is
OpenID-comment-enabled.<br>
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Peter Williams wrote:
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">Can
someone point me at a Google blogger endpoint that has recently
accepted their openid, please?</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">On a
particular blogsite, all I get is "OpenID url is missing", for
@blog*lockbox, <a href="http://rapattoni.trustbearer.com/lockbox"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://rapattoni.trustbearer.com/lockbox</a>,
and homepw.myopenid.com</font></div>
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