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color:#1F497D'>I just left a comment on your blog with my LiveJournal OpenID
and everything worked fine. I was not signed in with my Google account or
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color:windowtext'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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[mailto:general-bounces@openid.net] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>John Panzer<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 18:21<br>
<b>An:</b> Peter Williams<br>
<b>Cc:</b> general@openid.net<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [OpenID] Google Blogger and openid. Does it really work?
(today?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Never attribute to malice that which can be safely explained
by a bug; there is no intent to require one to be signed in with a Google
account in order to use an OpenID. But: I still can't reproduce
this. Just left a comment alongside yours, after signing out of my Google
account and using my jpanzer.myopenid.com OpenID: <a
href="http://www.abstractioneer.org/2008/02/openid-foundation-google-yahoo.html">http://www.abstractioneer.org/2008/02/openid-foundation-google-yahoo.html</a><br>
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So clearly there's something going wrong but I'm having difficulty reproducing
what you're seeing. Could you mail me off-list with the detailed steps,
OS, browser, combo you're using? <br>
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Peter Williams wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I cannot say the mystery is solved, but I made some
progress. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Now to Facts <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>- creating a google account takes moments<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>- one can setup blogger service from the dashboard<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>- One can alter settings and comments, to allow commenting
by "registered users, including openid".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>- once logged into Google Account, the blog owner can leave
an authenticated comment on <a href="http://openid2.blogspot.com/"
target="_blank">http://openid2.blogspot.com/</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>- once logged into Google Account, I could leave an
authenticated comment on John's blogger comment form.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Be it Bug or "designer-bug", it appears (a) one
must have a Google Account (b) be subject to its (hardly onerous) legal
provisions, (c) be signed in as a subscriber.... to leave an authenticated
comment using the pseudoanonymising features of leaving a comment as a
"registered user - via OpenID".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Interesting apparent legal strategy on Google's part, which
really doesn't surprise me (given the sheer risk of being a relying party in
UK/US). The subscriber leaving the comment is required to be and must assert to
be Google Account member, subject to Google legal terms.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Is this policy "consistent" with the UCI component
of the "UCI" vision, folks? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'm kind of disappointed (tho not totally surprised at a
gigafirm with giga reliance-time risks protecting itself legally, this
way).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If the Blogger anonymous URL feature works as one might
expect, there may be an opportunity for a sxipper type plugin/service (which
Ive still never used, sorry I dont use FF) to act as a proxy OpenID consumer,
form-posting a "unique trackback-openid' into the Google anonymous URL
commenting field, that tracksback back to the actual consumed openid
presented from the sxipper log files.<o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Panzer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue 3/25/2008 7:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Williams<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Google Blogger and openid. Does it really work?
(today?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So, commenting on Blogger using my ID <a
href="http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/" target="_blank">http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/</a>
works fine for me (on FF2 and IE7). For Peter it appears that something
is failing and Blogger is acting as if a non-OpenID URL was entered.
Anyone else care to try?<br>
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Peter Williams wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks
for trying, John. Using your parameters made no difference; pdf evidence
attached. I would not normally discuss a particular vendor (unlike the work of
open source projects... who usually relish out the air time), but its such a
high profile claim for OpenID2 adoption that Blogger works.... that it NEEDS to
work NOW, for the average Joe against the OpenID gold standard -
"myopenid" URLs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Panzer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue 3/25/2008 3:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Williams<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:general@openid.net" target="_blank">general@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Google Blogger and openid. Does it really work?
(today?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Blogger is currently at OpenID 1.1 and doesn't yet support
i-names (@blog*lockbox). I was able to publish a comment using <a
href="http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/" target="_blank">http://jpanzer.myopenid.com/</a>.
Obviously I can't test the others :).<br>
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<a href="http://www.abstractioneer.org/" target="_blank">http://www.abstractioneer.org/</a>
is OpenID-comment-enabled.<br>
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Peter Williams wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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someone point me at a Google blogger endpoint that has recently accepted their
openid, please?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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a particular blogsite, all I get is "OpenID url is missing", for
@blog*lockbox, <a href="http://rapattoni.trustbearer.com/lockbox"
target="_blank">http://rapattoni.trustbearer.com/lockbox</a>, and
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