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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>Are we back to, openid2 is 11,000 blogging sites where you too can leave an authenticated comment, with probably a useless-quality audit trial?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Can some give me URLs to just 100 openid relying party sites ? 100 wordpress/blogger sites does not count, unless the user had to take significant initiative to choose to adopt openid (i.e. probably have to tech config, to make it work).I want to focus on the openid "CCA" story, if possible, per Rahman's Openid book.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Mon 3/24/2008 2:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Dick Hardt<BR><B>Cc:</B> david@sixapart.com; openid-general List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OpenID] Weighing In on TechCrunch's "Is OpenID Being Exploited By The Big Internet Companies?"<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I don't agree Eddy. I don't want to use OpenID in its current form to log into gmail or Yahoo mail.</DIV>
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<DIV>I do think the big sites should support attribute exchange as well as roll their sleeves up to advance OpenID Tech so that we *can* use it to securlylog into sensitive sites.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Hehe...depends on your view about what a sensitive site is :-)<BR><BR>But then, isn't it a shortcoming of the OpenID foundation and/or framework? I'd rather see the foundation take up their sleeves than have us bend by big providers at their terms...the foundation's feet dragging will result in exactly that. Which isn't really what joe-early-adopter had in mind, or am I mistaken here?<BR>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><SPAN class=Apple-tab-span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN><A href="http://identity20.com/?p=147" target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">http://identity20.com/?p=147</A></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On 24-Mar-08, at 1:24 PM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:<BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">David, are you really surprised by that? Why can't or don't want the big providers rely on other OpenID providers? Think...<BR><BR>David Recordon:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">What do you all think about the balance between large companies being
providers (helping to create an ecosystem where everyone will have an
OpenID) versus also becoming relying parties?
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>That's were OpenID will be missing the point really. Should have AOL or Yahoo announced to allow login to their respective accounts with OpenID (any OpenID), this would have been real support and also real news. Right now, it doesn't look too good IMO :-(<BR><BR><BR>
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