Hey...Peter,<br><br>Dare to make a positive difference! Why don't you fight the good fight and help the OpenID *community* flourish by doing a good thing: joining, voting, helping make the mettle of governance in the community a little stronger with your strident opinions? Or as the old saying goes, Rather than shout at the darkness, light a candle.<br>
<br>As I see it, there are no immutable laws of the universe, natural or otherwise, written in stone somewhere that compel the inevitability of your logic that corporate interests must win and community interests must suffer. OIDF is fully an intentional design by the OpenID Foundation Board to sustain and help the OpenID community. Help us keep the founding charter as it came from Brad et al. to serve everyone freely as envisioned. Indeed, this intentional community is known well to the entire Board. Nothing else would do.<br>
<br>cheers,<br>-bill<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Williams <<a href="mailto:pwilliams@rapattoni.com" target="_blank">pwilliams@rapattoni.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Affiliation protocols for OPs and the clickpass' idea (sp-centric trust<br>
model enforcement) are both topics that could be standardized to make an<br>
open market - addressing RPs.<br>
<br>
But, the point of being a(ny) board member is to ensure that only<br>
"certain" standards activities are actually authorized/endorsed by the<br>
"Board" : the ones that benefit your investments. Then you "present" the<br>
rationale as "community interest", and "common good", etc etc - as to<br>
why certain things are not engaged in.<br>
<br>
If like ICANN/DNS you had community board members per grassroot<br>
involvement, who get all "user-interest focused" vs<br>
"corporate/money/defense focused" you change the governance rules so<br>
there simply are no more community board seats :-). Only govt/corporate<br>
types are allowed in the club.<br>
<br>
Be fun to see how long the "nobody owns this" philosophy lasts, now big<br>
money is in the air. I give it 6 months, till folks are fighting in the<br>
backroom over stuff. Nobody owns it will suddenly turn into ... well<br>
what we meant on referred "the core protocol". Of course! "service<br>
innovations" are allowed (that the Board will not allow to be<br>
standardized) that only some parties will own!<br>
<br>
Governance is hard. The early adoptors have to have some early lead - to<br>
payoff the bets and investments. But, standards means they don't get<br>
much of a head start, over the mere "followers". Governance is supposed<br>
to allow politics to manage those contrary goals. Governance always<br>
tests the mettle of a community.<br>
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Peter.<br>
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> Behalf Of Chris Obdam<br>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:26 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:general@openid.net" target="_blank">general@openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: [OpenID] Affliating OpenID sign ups<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> myOpenID facilitates OpenID consumers a sign p service. It's called<br>
> affliliating. Are there plans integrating this kind of functionality<br>
> in to OpenID?<br>
><br>
> Greetings,<br>
><br>
> Chris Obdam<br>
> OpenID Netherlands<br>
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