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Jørn Wildt:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">OpenID wants
you to put the OpenID
logo right beside the OpenID input, isn’t that just as bad </span></font><font
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It helps to recognize the option to login with OpenID, the eye gets
trained to look for it...so it's certainly a good strategy...<br>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">But it is
probably unavoidable – if Yahoo!
and others implement OpenID then they want to make sure everybody knows
it and use
them as OPs since it will drive traffic to their sites. Had it not been
logo-buttons then it had been something else.</span></font></p>
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Except that Yahoo doesn't let you login with your OpenID (in relation
to what I posted previously). But besides that you are right...<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Regards,
Jørn <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Wildt</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net">general-bounces@openid.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net">mailto:general-bounces@openid.net</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf
Of </span></b>Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 12. marts 2008
16:06<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> tom<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> OpenID List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID]
OpenID; a
single choice</span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">tom: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Is it only me that has an <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">issue with this given that before long pages will be covered with many <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">logos and that I'll end up having to search for the OpenID logo?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I appreciate the "open" aspects of OpenID, but for the user would it not <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">be better to have the browser manufacturers agree on a way to store an <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">OpenID and auto-direct to my OP rather than giving the user a zillion <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">logos on a screen?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">This
has been anticipated
and was obvious (even by design). OpenID has refused to address the
issues of a
trust point or federated network of OpenID operators and this is the
result.
There are and will be many sites which will trust only their own or a
very
narrow choice of OpenID providers.<br>
<br>
When making these suggestions more then 1 1/2 years ago I was booed
down....something
about "taking away the freedom to operate randomly OPs" was mentioned
many times. Well, you can blame these idiots today for refusing to
address this
issue, because, yeah...their freedom is going to be taken away by
reality now,
and not by providing and organizing a framework which would have allow
RPs to
trust OPs according to agreed rules and accepted standards. In a
federated
network of OPs and some established criteria everybody could trust
anybody....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Eddy Nigg, <a
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href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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