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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Moghadam, Valentine M., ed. <i>Identity
Politics and Women: Cultural Reassertions and Feminisms in International
Perspective.</i> 1993.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jaco Aizenman
[mailto:skorpio@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 07, 2007 9:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Williams<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OpenID List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Long live the plebs!!! :-D Re: [OpenID] What are openids
weaknesses?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hey fellow P. the Pleb!, sorry
for my delay because of my non-virtual activities..., my answers
below...
;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 9/4/07, <b>Peter Williams</b> <<a
href="mailto:pwilliams@rapattoni.com" target="_blank"> pwilliams@rapattoni.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>You are saying that if I use a
virtual openID in a virtual reality community issued by a virtual OP, I can
still be accountable for acts performed and representations made in the real
world.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Depends on the contract you signed with the virtual OP and the laws of your
country... <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I am saying that this kind of questions most probably will
be answered in the future by Supreme Judges (constitutional Judges) in every
country... (after the virtual personality human right is included in the
Constitution) <br>
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BTW, what do you mean by a <i>virtual openID?. </i>Is there any <i>non-virtual </i>(<i>presential
</i>as opposed to <i>virtual</i>) openID?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If a (SAML2 pseudonym
NameID-based) naming firewall between the virtual reality world and the real
world is breached, yes the nastygram I sent in my virtual presence via my
virtual OpenID (as verified using assertions of my virtual infocard) can be
used to hold me accountable in Thailand today when it adjudged that my persona
did defame the King of Thailand enthroned in 1550.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>This depend on the legislation
of the country where you are being processed...<br>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Or, yes, you can be legally
recognized as an unindicted co-conspirator, and - yes - employers need not hire
you because of that (legal) fact. Have a formal arrest record (as witness,
merely) that is also lawful basis for discrimination.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Again, this depends on the legislation of the country where
you are being processed... <br>
<br>
BTW, the constitutional amendment to this new fundamental right specifically
mentions that "it can not be used for discriminatory ends harming its
bearer". <br>
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BTW, please note that virtual personality(2) it is not just about content, like
the Thailand example you wrote, but also about <b><i><u>presence </u></i></b>and
<b><i><u>projection</u></i></b>.<br>
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Another relevant change is the contract editions that the OP, IdP and others
will have to make, if they want to have a contract and business that it
is legal and not illegal. An example of what Google and MSN may have to change
is here: <br>
<br>
<a href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfdrkkds_70gsm7tj">http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfdrkkds_70gsm7tj</a><br>
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(1)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>"Every person has the right <span class=st>to</span> <span class=st>have</span>
or not <span class=st>to</span> <span class=st>have</span> a <span class=st>virtual</span>
<span class=st>personality</span>, where its presence, content and projection
is regulated by each one of them. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><u>It can not be used for discriminatory ends harming its <span class=st>bearer</span></u>.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The State will guarantee that the information included in the <span
class=st>virtual</span> <span class=st>personality</span> <span class=st>have</span>
the adequate juridical and technical security; with the exclusion of third
parties not authorized that pretend <span class=st>to</span> obtain it. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The State could use the content of the <span class=st>virtual</span> <span
class=st>personality</span> of the person, previous authorization of the
person, and always just if it is in the benefit and advantage of the
person."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The full text is here: <a
href="http://personalidadvirtual.blogspot.com/">http://personalidadvirtual.blogspot.com/</a>
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<br>
An interview with the main promoter of this new human right, a Costa Rican
Magistrate (High Supreme Court Judge) is here: <br>
<a href="http://www.prensalibre.co.cr/2007/marzo/17/abanico08.php">http://www.prensalibre.co.cr/2007/marzo/17/abanico08.php</a><br>
<br>
A Costa Rican Congress newsletter where it mentions a session of the Comitteee
processing this constitutional amendment is here: <br>
<a href="http://www.asamblea.go.cr/actual/boletin/2006/oct06/24oct06.htm">http://www.asamblea.go.cr/actual/boletin/2006/oct06/24oct06.htm</a><br>
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(2) <a href="http://cis-berkman.editme.com/JacoLexiconChange2">http://cis-berkman.editme.com/JacoLexiconChange2</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>But there is at least another
level playing with the difference between denotational and referential
semantics of identity. If I enter a virtual space with my openid-identified
avatar, and I then virtual dollars to buy and play an virtual-online role
playing game as George Washington doing with my human property howsoever I actually
did historically (censored), should I be accountable in this world for the
behavior there, even when merely role playing historical fact, as judged by
current proscriptions about hate and human dignity?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Again, depends on the
legislation of the country you are being processed...<br>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Yes, say I.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>You are lucky that you live in
2007 in a democracy, and your opinion counts, and not a slave in
Rome... ;-) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Asymmetric information warfare
is all about this juxtaposition of identities and the associated realities.</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Can you please provide some links to learn more about this
last sentence you wrote?. <o:p></o:p></p>
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-- <br>
Jaco Aizenman L.<br>
My iname is =jaco (<a href="http://xri.net/=jaco" target="_blank">http://xri.net/=jaco</a>)<br>
Founder -
<a href="http://www.virtualrights.org" target="_blank">www.virtualrights.org </a><br>
XDI Board member - <a href="http://www.xdi.org" target="_blank">www.xdi.org</a><br>
Tel/Voicemail: 506-3461570 <br>
Costa Rica<br>
<br>
What is an i-name?<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-name" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-name
</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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