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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How do you think folks logged on to a half billion accounts at Microsoft
Hotmail over the last 10 years?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How do you think a folks logon to Microsoft IM?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It’s just sp-initiated websso, on the internet today. Go try it.
Go spy on the modern redirects. The std is ws-federation passive. OpenID like
in flow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We are still deciding as a community whether realtor.com shall support
webSSO, from the likes of IDPs like Live.com, Yahoo, etc. We have rather a lot
of consumer traffic, ourselves you know -- speaking for the wider,
realty-related community It would make some sense that the major portals
federate with such major relying party destination sites. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>First focus on websso. Then we decide the protocol: saml,
ws-fed, openid. In all likelihood, its cheap enough to do all three. They each
have interesting technical properties.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
[mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 02, 2007 5:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Williams<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OpenID List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] What are openids weaknesses?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Peter Williams wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[Peter Williams] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>But then one might ask, where
is the adoption by the masses of both openid or saml? Certainly nothing I'm
aware of - or better, not many choose to rely on it, except in a closed relying
relation...i.e. I trust my own delegation point, not that of others.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg, <a href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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