<div>Chris, congratulations for this very interesting OpenID development or extension, that will enable people to more properly regulate his virtual personality(*) in the social networks field.</div>
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<div>Do you have any developers in mind to do this?. I have some ideas. Call me if you want to talk more about this.</div>
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<div>(<strong>*)</strong> <strong>vp:</strong> <strong><em>content </em></strong>(the data you choose to share), <strong><em>projection</em></strong> (how your data/info can be used by others) and <strong><em>presence</em>
</strong> (who can access you, in which channels, and in which conditions?)<br><br> </div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: <a href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net">general-bounces@openid.net
</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:general-bounces@openid.net">general-bounces@openid.net</a>]On<br>> > Behalf Of Chris Messina<br>> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:44 AM<br>> > To: <a href="mailto:general@openid.net">
general@openid.net</a><br>> > Subject: Re: [OpenID] OpenId Chance<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > This is the general concept and thrust for marrying OpenID with<br>> > microformats.<br>> ><br>> > I intend to write about this soon, but essentially the idea is to host
<br>> > an hcard on the end of your OpenID, and contained within that hcard<br>> > would be your XFN relationships.<br>> ><br>> > Obviously if you have a blog at the end of your OpenID and use<br>> > WordPress, you're well on your way to having a publicly-portable
<br>> > social network.<br>> ><br>> > There are two elements of this to consider, however:<br>> ><br>> > First, is that not everyone will appreciate having their details<br>> > shared about them by others (see FOAF) on a public portal. This could
<br>> > be remedied by, at the least, concealing the XFN relationships behind<br>> > OpenID authentication.<br>> ><br>> > Second, just as folks may not appreciate their contact information<br>> > being shared on the open web for them, still others may not want to be
<br>> > added to Social Network X automatically. To some degree, Plaxo's<br>> > Universal Address Book Widget (<a href="http://www.plaxo.com/api/widget">http://www.plaxo.com/api/widget</a>) puts<br>> > you, the inviter, in the position of responsibility for spamming your
<br>> > friends. The same should be true for importing and exporting social<br>> > networks in two ways:<br>> ><br>> > 1. no one should be automatically added to a social network unless<br>> > they requested it. Therefore, whenever contacts are imported into a
<br>> > system as a step in rebuilding or *subscribing* to one's social<br>> > network, the next step will be to *invite* those contacts who are not<br>> > already in the system to join.<br>> > 2. Now, if certain contacts are discovered or cross-referenced in the
<br>> > system and are discovered to already exist, the network's internal<br>> > messaging system may be used to invite those contacts to connect, or<br>> > to be added to a non-reciprocal relationship (as in accelerating the
<br>> > discovery of the "Add as a friend" process).<br>> ><br>> > Now, what I think is actually most interesting about this proposal is<br>> > that, should OpenID take off, the need to import/export your social
<br>> > network at each new site will actually diminish, not increase. For<br>> > example, you don't download the Yellow Pages into every new cell phone<br>> > you buy, do you? Instead, you have a simple addressing mechanism (aka
<br>> > the phone number) to connect with people. And, while you currently<br>> > have to sync your address book with your phone to create a focused<br>> > subset of the Yellow Pages, I imagine that true user-centric identity
<br>> > would make this syncing process somewhat obsolete for when you log in<br>> > to a service and *share* your connections, aren't you then putting the<br>> > onus on the service to maintain its awareness of who you're connected
<br>> > with? And, on top of that, all you need are URLs for people in order<br>> > to contact them with the simple messaging exchange -- meaning that<br>> > internal network messaging systems will become somewhat redundant.
<br>> ><br>> > If, instead of going to Flickr, MySpace, Facebook and all the rest<br>> > that have their own internal messaging systems, (like email used to<br>> > be) and instead log directly into my iDP Inbox (which, acting as my
<br>> > agent, has collected all my messages) and am able to get all my<br>> > messages in one place, I can then respond by sending messages to<br>> > people's OpenIDs, instead of through those service's internal
<br>> > mechanisms.<br>> ><br>> > I would strongly recommend considering this proposal, which is based<br>> > on and built with technology and standards that are available *today*<br>> > (and in fact are already being deployed). And is also respectful of
<br>> > people's attention, and of their increasingly limited desire to join<br>> > YASN.<br>> ><br>> > Thoughts?<br>> ><br>> > Chris<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 1/26/07, Roland Sassen (using mozilla) <
<a href="mailto:sassen@thinsia.com">sassen@thinsia.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > > As there seem to be many people on this list with real names,<br>> > > the time has come to admit that hiding some basic information about your
<br>> > > person is not necessary. This opens the possibility to openly store<br>> > > this basic identity information<br>> > > on your personal internet portal, or just web-site, which can be the
<br>> > > starting point of your<br>> > > internet experience. Store your OpenId server here, your list of trusted<br>> > > sites and persons,<br>> > > your cross-site reputation, and more. This is a user-centric solution,
<br>> > > which is a more useful attribute than<br>> > > "decentralized". As CardSpace uses the end-device as a repository, which<br>> > > cannot be secured,<br>> > > OpenId can make a difference here. I blogged about this OpenId Chance
<br>> > > here <<a href="http://www.thinsia.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry070118-135301">http://www.thinsia.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry070118-135301</a>><br>> > > Roland Sassen <<a href="http://www.heartbeat-id.com/15">
http://www.heartbeat-id.com/15</a>><br>> > ><br>> > > THINSIA <<a href="http://www.thinsia.com">http://www.thinsia.com</a>><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > _______________________________________________
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