Hello,<br><br>I have been following this topic for a number of days and I believe that general public will be somewhat confused by using the word "anonymous login" my reasons are as follows:<br><br>1. Under the current implementation of Oid, the request service has access to the email addresses.
<br>2. Based on the implementation of the system each party could allow for sharing of information.<br><br>My gut would tell me to use the word Privacy Protect Login (PPL) - OpenID. these are much stronger words and also allows for emails address to be excluded because Privacy, IMHO, would mean personal information other than email addresses.
<br><br>My 2 cents for today.<br><br>S<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/11/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Drummond Reed</b> <<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>> wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I agree with Paul - although I like the technical precision of the term<br>"directed identity", it's too esoteric for the general public, who are going
<br>to be very interested in this feature (I already find it's the most<br>frequently asked question about OpenID 2.0.)<br><br>I started a read-through today of the proposed Draft 11 spec to make<br>editorial suggestions (I plan to submit it back to the editors by the end of
<br>the weekend). I find it really does need more a little more explanation of<br>this feature. In crafting some suggested text for this, I found myself<br>struggling with what to call this feature in terms the general public will
<br>understand (even though it's a technical spec, the name of this feature<br>should IMHO be the same thing we want the general public to call it).<br><br>The term Josh uses, "IdP-driven identifier selection", is technically
<br>accurate, but somewhat like "directed identity", I fear I it will be lost on<br>the general public.<br><br>The best candidate I can think of so far is "anonymous login", because that<br>seems to go straight to the heart of the benefit to the End User.
<br><br>Is it strictly anonymous? No, it's pseudononymous. Furthermore, using<br>IdP-driven identifier selection, an End User could in fact use this feature<br>and end up deciding to use one of their public, easily correlatable Claimed
<br>Identifiers. So it's not always strictly pseudononymous either.<br><br>But "anonymous login" still seems to be the best name I can think of that<br>lets the general public quickly grok the essence of this feature.
<br><br>Does anyone else have a better suggestion?<br><br>=Drummond<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Paul Trevithick [mailto:<a href="mailto:paul@socialphysics.org">paul@socialphysics.org</a>]<br>Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:04 AM
<br>To: 'Josh Hoyt'; 'Drummond Reed'<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</a><br>Subject: RE: concerns about each user having a unique "URL"<br><br>FWIW, I've found that that words like directed and omni-directional are
<br>confusing to folks. I *think* Kim introduced these words first (not sure),<br>but I don't think they work. -Paul<br><br>Josh wrote:<br>><br>> On 11/9/06, Drummond Reed <<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">
drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>> wrote:<br>> > I'm surprised the 2.0 spec you cite (draft 10) has no mention of<br>> directed<br>> > identity<br>><br>> I am the one responsible for the term "directed identity" not
<br>> appearing in the specification.<br>> I think "directed identity" is a pretty nebulous term, especially<br>> since it includes the word "identity" which is notoriously hard to<br>> define.
<br>><br>> I wrote about the feature that can be used to implement "directed<br>> identity", IdP-driven identifier selection. "Directed identity" is an<br>> IdP feature that requires IdP-driven identifier selection, but it is
<br>> not the only thing that is enabled by IdP-driven identifier selection.<br>> If you have IdP-driven identifier selection, then (IMO) "directed<br>> identity" is easy to envision.<br>><br>> Josh
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