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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Johannes is right – regardless of the
still-somewhat-amorphous nature of the OpenID community and the development of
a formal OpenID.org (or whatever it will be called), establishing OpenID as a
charter member of the Identity Commons community is a vital step.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We can always revisit all of these things,
and modify the IC OpenID working group charter, as needed in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>+1 to adopt the charter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>+1 to nominate David Recordon as the
initial Steward.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>+ 1 to this voting procedure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=Drummond <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
general-bounces@openid.net [mailto:general-bounces@openid.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Johannes Ernst<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 14, 2006
10:37 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Matthew Weymar<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> general@openid.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Identity Commons
Steward from OpenID</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you look at<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a href="http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter">http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>it defines the initial members of the working group, which are the
people that are constituting themselves as the OpenID Working Group in the
Identity Commons, and thus the ones that should be voting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This does not mean at all that this will be the entire membership of
theOpenID Working Group in the Identity Commons, only that these are the ones
that initiated being also chartered within Identity Commons. (please speak up
if you want to be a member as well -- preferably after the vote to make things
simpler organizationally ...;-)) Note that the relationships of theOpenID
Working Group in the Identity Commons, Apache Heraldry, the OpenID community on
this list and others, and a potential trade organization for OpenID, are still
in flux, and so it is unclear what exactly theOpenID Working Group in the
Identity Commons actually means -- what we are united in, however, is the desire
to have a place at the table in the reconstituted Identity Commons, and thus we
need to get this vote done within the next 24 hours or so ...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The deadline is set by the Identity Commons, see<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a
href="http://mail.idcommons.net/pipermail/community/2006-September/000710.html">http://mail.idcommons.net/pipermail/community/2006-September/000710.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sep 14, 2006, at 22:06, Matthew Weymar wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>To whom, may I ask, is this vote open?... All subscribers to this
listserv?...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If so, aren't you vulnerable to the (presumably unlikely) risk of weird
things happening, given that the list is public?...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also:You might want to specify adeadline for this vote?...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Or are you all quite happy to be less formal about this voting
stuff?...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Matthew<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 9/15/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Johannes
Ernst</span></b> <<a href="mailto:jernst+openid.net@netmesh.us">jernst+openid.net@netmesh.us</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Per draft charter<br>
<a href="http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter">http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter</a><br>
and the Identity Commons deadline for initial working group formation<br>
by this Friday night, <br>
<br>
I'd like to:<br>
1) move to adopt the charter as written at the URL above<br>
2) nominate David Recordon as the OpenID working group representative<br>
to the Identity Commons Stewards Council.<br>
<br>
I realize this is a bit late, but in our defense, I think neither of <br>
the points above will turn out to be particularly controversial, and<br>
we DO have the objective of becoming a founding working group of the<br>
reconstituted Identity Commons, don't we? along the many other<br>
founding working groups ... raising the flag that OpenID is here and <br>
real. If we need to re-constitute, we can do this Saturday morning if<br>
need to be, but for right now, let's just make sure we get the table<br>
stakes in place for being a founding WG of IDC2 (hope people agree on<br>
this).<br>
<br>
We don't have a voting process either, as it turns out, so I propose<br>
that<br>
1. you vote +1 or -1 SEPARATELY on each of the above motions, AND<br>
on this voting procedure, which I'll call "motion 3" (in addition to <br>
the above two motions)<br>
2. that if anybody produces only one vote instead of one vote for<br>
the three motions separately, the same vote is applied to all three<br>
3. that any motion passes if it has at least 2/3 of the votes as <br>
+1, AND it has more +1 votes than any "competing" motion.<br>
4. you can of course make alternate motions -- call them #4 and<br>
such -- but keep in mind we have very little time.<br>
<br>
Obviously, success for motions 1 and 2 depend on the successful vote <br>
for this voting procedure (motion 3)<br>
<br>
Given that I'm making these motions, I'll of course vote +1 on all<br>
three.<br>
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Johannes Ernst<br>
NetMesh Inc.<br>
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