<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">If you look at<DIV> <A href="http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter">http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter</A></DIV><DIV>it defines the initial members of the working group, which are the people that are constituting themselves as the OpenID Working Group in the Identity Commons, and thus the ones that should be voting.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>This does not mean at all that this will be the entire membership of the OpenID Working Group in the Identity Commons, only that these are the ones that initiated being also chartered within Identity Commons. (please speak up if you want to be a member as well -- preferably after the vote to make things simpler organizationally ...;-)) Note that the relationships of the OpenID Working Group in the Identity Commons, Apache Heraldry, the OpenID community on this list and others, and a potential trade organization for OpenID, are still in flux, and so it is unclear what exactly the OpenID Working Group in the Identity Commons actually means -- what we are united in, however, is the desire to have a place at the table in the reconstituted Identity Commons, and thus we need to get this vote done within the next 24 hours or so ...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The deadline is set by the Identity Commons, see</DIV><DIV> <A href="http://mail.idcommons.net/pipermail/community/2006-September/000710.html">http://mail.idcommons.net/pipermail/community/2006-September/000710.html</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Sep 14, 2006, at 22:06, Matthew Weymar wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>To whom, may I ask, is this vote open?... All subscribers to this listserv?...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If so, aren't you vulnerable to the (presumably unlikely) risk of weird things happening, given that the list is public?...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also: You might want to specify a deadline for this vote?...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or are you all quite happy to be less formal about this voting stuff?...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> Matthew<BR><BR><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 9/15/06, <B class="gmail_sendername">Johannes Ernst</B> <<A href="mailto:jernst+openid.net@netmesh.us">jernst+openid.net@netmesh.us</A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Per draft charter<BR> <A href="http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter">http://wiki.idcommons.net/moin.cgi/OpenIdCharter</A><BR>and the Identity Commons deadline for initial working group formation<BR>by this Friday night, <BR><BR>I'd like to:<BR>1) move to adopt the charter as written at the URL above<BR>2) nominate David Recordon as the OpenID working group representative<BR>to the Identity Commons Stewards Council.<BR><BR>I realize this is a bit late, but in our defense, I think neither of <BR>the points above will turn out to be particularly controversial, and<BR>we DO have the objective of becoming a founding working group of the<BR>reconstituted Identity Commons, don't we? along the many other<BR>founding working groups ... raising the flag that OpenID is here and <BR>real. If we need to re-constitute, we can do this Saturday morning if<BR>need to be, but for right now, let's just make sure we get the table<BR>stakes in place for being a founding WG of IDC2 (hope people agree on<BR> this).<BR><BR>We don't have a voting process either, as it turns out, so I propose<BR>that<BR> 1. you vote +1 or -1 SEPARATELY on each of the above motions, AND<BR>on this voting procedure, which I'll call "motion 3" (in addition to <BR>the above two motions)<BR> 2. that if anybody produces only one vote instead of one vote for<BR>the three motions separately, the same vote is applied to all three<BR> 3. that any motion passes if it has at least 2/3 of the votes as <BR>+1, AND it has more +1 votes than any "competing" motion.<BR> 4. you can of course make alternate motions -- call them #4 and<BR>such -- but keep in mind we have very little time.<BR><BR>Obviously, success for motions 1 and 2 depend on the successful vote <BR>for this voting procedure (motion 3)<BR><BR>Given that I'm making these motions, I'll of course vote +1 on all<BR>three.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Johannes Ernst<BR>NetMesh Inc.<BR><BR><BR><BR> <A href="http://netmesh.info/jernst"> http://netmesh.info/jernst</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>general mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</A><BR><A href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/general"> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/general</A><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">general mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/general">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/general</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Johannes Ernst</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">NetMesh Inc.</P><SPAN><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN><SPAN><IMG src="cid:F18F47C4-EE9A-483D-8E43-68523E8CAA83@aviatis.com"></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN> </SPAN><A href="http://netmesh.info/jernst">http://netmesh.info/jernst</A><DIV><BR><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </SPAN></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>