[OpenID] Icam question at didw

John Bradley ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com
Sun Sep 20 00:23:04 UTC 2009


You are correct it is similar to the CA business but not the same.

I wouldn't want some of the practices there to be repeated.

Trust framework certification might be a profitable business,  I  
suspect that is what Kantara hopes.
I suspect others see it as a profitable venture as well.

I don't think the foundation sees itself competing long term in that  
market.

I think there goal is to establish an open market where all of the IdP  
have a chance to compete.

Commercial sucess will depend on the value IdP see in certification by  
this or other trust frameworks.

The real money is in higher LoA and attributes.

The GSA LoA 1 certification is the training wheels that will let us  
start understanding the market.

John B.

On 2009-09-19, at 7:11 PM, Peter Williams wrote:

>
> "Being a Trust Framework Provider is a large and expensive
> undertaking,  but is possible."
>
> Given my experience with SSL root registration business, passing CA  
> audits, and selling root keys to folks for millions of dollars each,  
> I find it eminently possible. Apart from technology swap, we seek to  
> be in a pretty classical areas of assurance management/testing.  
> Given there is now an apparent demand curve, and there is shortage  
> of qualified suppliers, its seems a perfect time to invest. Just  
> like folks invested in making shell SSL root keys (for selling on to  
> folks late to the SSL party), one can be building shell schemes and  
> IdPs.
>
> This should be nicely profitable, assuming one has the knowhow and  
> clean VC-quality IP cleanliness, of course.
>
> It's nice to see NORMAL market dynamics entering the space. Gorn are  
> the days, when none of us were "supposed to make money" (18 months  
> ago, only!)
>
>
>
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