[OpenID] Fwd: ID Community and Berkman Center

[Peter Williams]

There are 3 notable things at that point:

The rejection of XML
The use of metadata to drive discovery
The focus on using the foreground redirect

Of those, only the first seems proven. The last 2 are still showing weakness.

If you look at 3dsecure from the same period, it used XML over https, it didn't use metadata, but like openid today even then it struggled with leveraging https and the inline frame to combating phishing.


-----Original Message-----
From: openid-general-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-general-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Brian Hamlin
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:28 AM
To: openid-general at lists.openid.net
Subject: [OpenID] Fwd: ID Community and Berkman Center

Begin forwarded message:
>
> On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:53 PM, Michael Sippey wrote:
>
>> I'm not familiar with what's happening with John Clippinger, but I can
>> attest to the roots of OpenID (the spec), which were with Brad
>> Fitzpatrick in a Six Apart conference room in SF back in '05.  At the
>> time we were developing vox.com and trying to solve the problem of
>> making sure that LiveJournal users didn't have to create yet another
>> username and password to sign in to comment on Vox (and vice versa).
>>
>> I know there was a ton of politics around the different identity
>> communities back then (Sxip!  Ping!  Etc.!  (and obviously the
>> politics carry on to this day)) but the beauty of working with Brad
>> was watching him focus intently on solving a challenging technical
>> problem with elegant solutions, community politics be damned.
>>
>> </delurk>
>
> Hi Michael-
>
>   yes, and....
>
>   As I recall, it was not at all clear that there would be one
> standard that would rise.. Yadis/LID also had the same claim to a
> simple, elegant technical solution.. Sxip was working very closely
> with Microsoft meanwhile, with Redmond stinging after their very
> public fail with Passport.. and then there was Higgins at Berkman..
> far afield was Drumon Reed with XRI...
>
>   Each one of these camps had their own reasons why they were going to
> be it, but, like a currency of a sovereign nation, everyone in the
> back of their heads knew that a partial standard was no standard at
> all.. The potential for the victor was enormous! and yet, there had to
> be compromise...
>
>   Its easy to say in hindsight that Brad Fitzpatrick did this.. but,
> there is another side to it, too, that has to do with bringing all
> these parties together and hashing something out.. That did indeed
> happen, which brought us to today...
>
>   best regards from Berkeley
>     -Brian
>
>

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