[OpenID] Open Challenge to webfinger and XRD

[Santosh Rajan]

Hi John,
The last time I saw an example of an XRD host-meta is here on 15th Oct here
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xri/200910/msg00055.html

It has a <Host> instead of <Subject>. If you are saying that it is not part
of the XRD spec and it is part of the host-meta spec, it still doesnt change
my argument. As an end-user of the the discovery mechanism the effect is
still the same for me.

You say you have a hard time following me! Isn't it a case of the pot
calling the kettle black? How many people are going to follow what you have
said bellow. I will only quote one sentence you have written and ignore the
rest.

"The Subject of a XRD is the <Subject> of the XRD there can be 0 or 1  
in an XRD."

That is exactly what you said. Now tell me how can there be a "0" <Subject>
for an XRD. What meaning does an XRD have with "0" <Subject>?



John Bradley-9 wrote:
> 
> Hi Santosh,
> 
> I am having a hard time following your point.
> 
> This is the current draft of the XRD spec.
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/34724/xrd-1.0-wd09.html
> 
> There is no <Host>  element in the spec.
> 
> The Subject of a XRD is the <Subject> of the XRD there can be 0 or 1  
> in an XRD.
> 
> HostMeta is a spec that uses the OASIS XRD spec.
> 
> I know that they want to have what is essentially an abstract Subject.
> 
> ie one that is about the host and not the URI.
> 
> This is a URL problem and not an XRI one.
> 
> Any number of wars have been fought over how to represent non- 
> information resources with URI.
> 
> We did give the group working on host-meta as a itef spec some options  
> on how they might do that.
> 
> Using the DNS scheme or a URI fragment are all possibilities.  I don't  
> know if they have come to a conclusion.   Whatever they decide someone  
> will be unhappy if history is anything to go by on this topic.
> 
> There is a public review period for XRD coming up and a process for  
> you to make formal submissions if you want to have input but not join  
> the TC.
> 
> John B.
> 
> On 2009-10-19, at 3:27 PM, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> 
>>
>> This is an Open Challenge i am sending to the webfinger, XRD forums.  
>> These
>> guys really think I am an Idiot. "Maybe I am". "BUT I AM NOT GOING  
>> DOWN
>> WITHOUT A FIGHT".
>>
>> Really, I really don't know. Let us hear the arguments they give.  
>> Maybe i am
>> a brainless stupid, that is why i feel all of them are hollow. But  
>> let them
>> prove I am stupid. "IF THEY CAN", IF they can, we will hand it to  
>> them, "THE
>> IDENTITY OSCAR".
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,I know you guys don't like to hear from me. I have been told  
>> so much.
>> By your moderators. That people on this forum are not "Happy" to  
>> hear from
>> me.
>> Like it or "NOT" you are going to hear from me. I am not sure if  
>> this post
>> of mine will be allowed to be published. But let us see.
>> I have so many grouses with "XRD" and today I am going to start with  
>> my
>> first grouse. Since WebFinger by definition is going to follow XRD,  
>> don't
>> argue with me about webfinger. Lets talk about XRD to start with me.
>> I am throwing a challenge to all the XRD guys. Prove to me that the
>> <Subject> of an XRD host-meta document has to be <Host> instead of
>> <Subject>. If you "smart" guys can prove this to me, I will agree  
>> that "I am
>> a complete Idiot". If "NOT" all of you web fingerer's and XRD's are
>> Idiots!!!!
>>
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