[OpenID] On the banning of Santosh

[Andrew Arnott]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 2009-11-29, at 8:31 PM, David Recordon wrote:
>
> Yes and I feel like I and others have tried doing this multiple times over
> the past six months.  I've directly sent him emails off of the list when I
> first noticed this sort of behavior in addition to replying to multiple
> inappropriate comments of his on the list as well.  The simple solution
> would have been to have banned him months ago; that's not what we did.
>
>
> To start with, apologies for jumping midway into a topic. I saw a flurry of
> traffic, and after reading the thread, was concerned that the action was NOT
> in the best interest of the community.
>
> From my understanding, Santosh was NOT warned that he would be banned from
> the list if he continued his behaviour. Is that correct? If so,
>

Ah, so I believe we actually see things similarly.  It sounds to me like
everyone agrees that perhaps the ideal order of handling an issue like this
is "guidance -> warning -> banning".  Absolutely coaching a contributor to
be more respectful is the first and most preferred step.  If that fails, and
the behavior is against the rules (which we have now posted in draft), and
the contributor ignores the warning, then banning is an acceptable last
resort.

That wasn't entirely the process we followed here, in that no rules were
posted.  I know several people "guided" Santosh to be more respectful.  It
sounds like David warned him -- whether actually threatening to ban him I'm
not sure -- and finally he was banned.  In the future, we'll improve by
having those rules, and perhaps being explicit in a warning from an admin
that a member will be banned.

If anything more needs to be said, perhaps it can be said off-list.  This
has become much more meta-list discussion than a discussion about OpenID.  I
can't believe a topic like this hasn't been had many hundreds/thousands of
times on other lists and re-inventing it here seems like a distraction if it
goes beyond "what can we do about it now?"

Just my 2c.
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