[OpenID] Facebook support for OpenID. Where?

[SitG Admin]

>1) Requiring one ID (Facebook ID) to use another ID (OpenID) is 
>ridiculous to say the least. It is going to give a wrong impression 
>about OpenID to all the Facebook users.

How is Facebook's implementation different, in this respect, from 
many other social networking sites that have become OP's?

I have not heard that term "Facebook ID" before. There are Facebook 
*accounts*, yes; and URL's, one for each user; but are users being 
told they must use their "Facebook ID's" to use their "OpenID's", or 
that they must log into Facebook before using OpenID?

The particular URI associated with a Facebook account is peripheral 
to that account - well, okay, from what I've seen it *is* that 
account, but my point is, the idea of URI as one's primary Identity 
at Facebook is more an attribute of their account (they log in at 
facebook.com, not at their URI) than their main interface with the 
site. If users are told that they now have an OpenID, when logged 
into Facebook; and, that their OpenID will be their main profile page 
for Facebook; it will be OpenID that is peripheral to their account, 
and the URI being their main Facebook profile page will just be part 
of the OpenID featureset.

If they (eventually) support delegation, allowing users to select 
their own OP's, this would be nice, and give the "right" impression 
of OpenID; but, considering that the users' URI's would go away 
ANYWAY if Facebook went down, it's not unreasonable of them to keep 
security insourced.

>I am not buying the argument that this is only a trial phase etc. If 
>they really wanted to try OpenID they should have tried a beta for 
>limited users. That is what most RP's do.

So you prefer "following the pack" to innovation?

Lots of people do business by the philosophy that business has been 
done for so long that the best ways of doing things have already been 
discovered, and any alternatives anyone may think of can only lead to 
disaster. Lots of businesses, led by these people, have been falling 
left and right in the shifting economy. Innovators have also been 
falling by the hundreds, but a few of them are not only surviving, 
they're *thriving*. Their new ways WORK.

Facebook's leaders have enough confidence in their plan to pursue it. 
That's good enough for me; if they fail, they'll recover, suffer 
losses, or fall in the "free market" of ideas. If they do well, they 
prosper. There is Justice in this, so it's all good, in my view.

>I dont want RP's to go ahead and implement something half baked and 
>give the wrong impression to everybody.

We're not exactly trodding a well-worn path, here. For those of us 
farthest along, the bread is still rising, and it may not taste good. 
Facebook thinks it has a good recipe, and doesn't seem inclined to 
wait and see how the first loaves turn out before it begins baking.

-Shade