[OpenID] Your OpenID is destined to be your email address

[SitG Admin]

At 6:18 PM -0700 3/30/09, santrajan wrote:
>The history of the internet is strewn with the carcasses of technologies
>that didnt listen to the users, and went by what the "committee" wanted. You

The history of the internet is ALSO strewn with the monuments to 
technologies that were built by the users, i.e. a "committee" of 
technologically knowledgeable people *from the community* who were 
inclined to participate.

>may have heard the maxim "A Camel is a horse designed by a committee". I

I haven't heard it, but then, in the circles I move in, racial 
superiority and anti-diversity aren't very popular sentiments, to say 
the least. Logically, too, nothing similar comes to mind; sometimes a 
camel really is just what you need, to rebut that maxim using its own 
terms, and dismissing it because we can't imagine anyone else needing 
or wanting anything but a horse isn't very far-sighted ;)

At 7:30 PM -0700 3/30/09, santrajan wrote:
>The url's you pointed out and others like those are testimony to the lack of
>foresight in the original openid 1.0 specification. Open id 2.0 was the
>bandage and glue applied to 1.0. And directed identity is really the only
>way to go.

A horse is the only way to go. Those people who asked for camels just 
weren't farsightful enough to know what they needed.

>What I find shocking is the obvious attempt by some people to brush our
>concerns under the carpet, by tactics like glossing over the issue, putting
>words into my mouth, diverting the real issue into some other direction.

If the attempts are so obvious, they needn't be explained. Oh wait . 
. . no, I don't think that will go over well here. If you have 
accusations to make, make them substantially - that IS, after all, 
how community enforcement of standards *works*. Make your case, 
explicate the use of tactics such as "glossing over the issue", 
"putting words into your mouth", and "diverting the real issue into 
some other direction". Don't just make shocked noises and mumble 
vague words to the effect of other people doing bad things, share 
your insight with the group and expose your reasoning to agreement - 
or criticism.

-Shade