[OpenID] Your OpenID is destined to be your email address

SitG Admin sysadmin at shadowsinthegarden.com
Mon Mar 30 06:55:09 UTC 2009


>Your OpenID is destined to be your email address. I have posted my arguments
>on my blog.

*amusement* This isn't such a low-traffic list that we need to worry 
about posting links rather than just copying the text into a post. If 
anything, we should worry that some readers might be able to receive 
E-mail but not access the web to follow a link!

>http://santrajan.blogspot.com/2009/03/death-of-openid.html

New info summed up for those who can't follow the link yet:

"I don't support OpenID as it was intended, I just use v2.0 to let 
users enter their E-mail address as a login. I don't want a 
meaningless URL because it does not guarantee that users have a 
verified E-mail address, and people without verified E-mail addresses 
should not be able to log in."

It's basically a trust issue. There's also a paragraph about Google 
which implies that Google Accounts are trusted to verify any (even 
non-Gmail) addresses, but it would require everyone to use a Google 
Account (which will never happen), so I won't bother delving into the 
obvious double standard.

Hmm, looks like this is actually the second post on OpenID, at that 
blog; for those who *can* follow links, here's the first:

http://santrajan.blogspot.com/2009/03/mess-called-openid.html

There's a lot of subjective, generalization-from-self perspective in 
it; some excerpts below, for those who cannot follow links yet :)

"First of all the Open Id itself is a problem. [...] 
http://myusername.myserver.com/?blah=bleh [...] I for sure wouldnt 
want to login anywhere with such an id!"

"At the very least the users email address should be made available 
to the RP's. Any web site worth its salt will atleast require the 
users email."

"Yahoo allows you to log in but does not provide the email address, 
making it necessary for RP's to verify email address. This defeats 
the whole purpose."

"Facebook would like RP's to use its own proprietory facebook connect 
(but again this does not give the RP's the email address."

If only I were to accept the premises of this argument (which 
basically seem to amount to "verified E-mail addresses are the most 
important thing to all sites"), the rest of it would make perfect 
sense. I don't need to know users' E-mail addresses (and why the hell 
would I? It's not like I'm SPAMMING them - uh, contacting them or 
sending anything, that is), and since this is, after all, the whole 
PURPOSE of OpenID, there isn't any need to use OpenID for my site.

-Shade



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