[OpenID] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened

[Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)]

On 03/20/2009 10:35 PM, SitG Admin:
>> I think - with or without costs - this is what's expected from 
>> certification authorities.
>
> Why?

Well, we have been through this already, don't we...

Nevertheless, certification authorities are certifying all kinds of 
things, ideally they certify people and organizations. That's what they 
were all about in the beginning. These days it's not exactly like this 
anymore...

> I didn't intend it to be an analogy to SSL certificates, just the idea 
> that if costs aren't monetary they don't exist. Extending the analogy 
> in its intended direction, then, someone who enjoyed having sex and 
> didn't think twice about having it with newly met strangers wouldn't 
> necessarily see it as a cost, or even out of the ordinary for how they 
> lived their life (just as most people don't think of "giving their 
> full name" as a cost).

:-)

Neither is an identity disclosing requirement a cost - as long as the CA 
in question doesn't profit from it. At least that's my opinion. If it's 
required in order to govern a policy, it addresses a legitimate concern, 
and compliance on part of the recipient of a free service.

Further to your analogy: In order to rent a hotel room you must usually 
deposit a passport or other identifying document - at least you must 
present it usually. If you have to pay for the room or not is not the 
scope of this requirement.

Of course there are hostels or other places to sleep which might not 
require from you to present your ID document, but I bet you'll have some 
cockroaches sharing the room with you...

This is the correct analogy, not doing favors. It's the rules which are 
established in order to rent a room (without connection to the costs). 
Some might give you the room for free - but will not remove the 
established rules for getting one.


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