[OpenID] TransparencyCamp and OpenID (U)

Ben Laurie benl at google.com
Fri Mar 13 13:20:35 UTC 2009


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ewout ter Haar <ewoutterhaar at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Laurie <benl at google.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> ...the rub being that SAML is already widely deployed (from what I
> >> hear) but 1) few use it 2) integration costs are too high and 3)
> >> managing SAML from a government-to-citizen perspective seems fraught
> >> with huge costs and unnecessary burdens on both sides of the aisle.
> >>
> >> It sounds like your ideal is "pragmatic SAML" but that seems a
> >> contradiction in terms. No?
>
> > And for "managing SAML from a government-to-citizen perspective seems
> > fraught with huge costs and unnecessary burdens on both sides of the
> > aisle."  - managing SAML is only as hard as you make it. If all you
> > want something along the lines of an ID - like OpenID provides - then
> > its pretty trivial.
>
> I always liked the "openid is just as secure as email verified
> identity" line.


I don't think this is actually true.


> Use just as much security as you need. I think nobody
> is saying your taxes should be filed with your OpenID identity. But
> don't let that stop you using it when you can.
>
> My impression is that OpenID is much more apropriate for many of the
> use cases in (european?) higher education where Shibboleth is being
> deployed. All of this complicated (both for the user and the
> implementor) infrastructure just to protect some copyrighted
> recourses?
>
> Ewout ter Haar
>
>
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