[OpenID] mail via openid.net marked as SPAM

Sun Jun 7 03:57:20 UTC 2009

There is now a SPF record for OpenID.net so hopefully that helps a bit (and
didn't break anything)!
--David

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, David Fuelling <sappenin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just for the heck of it, I did a gmail search for "in:spam openid" and it
> returned about 30 unread messages (that's just in the last 30 days).  Most
> were from Luke Shepherd, but there was one from Eric Sachs on May 12th, and
> one from Dirk Balfanz on Jun 2.
>
> I discovered that my openid filters in gmail did not have the "never send
> to spam" checked, so I changed that in gmail, but this still seems pretty
> odd.
>
> fyi....I suggest all gmail users double-check their spam box for openid
> messages.
>
> david
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> At least Google's spam filters don't give any preferential treatment to
>> Google employees. ;)
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Breno de Medeiros <breno at google.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Just for the record, this particular email from Eric ended up in my spam
>>> box.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Eric Sachs <esachs at google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >> Eric, I assume Luke can email you directly without a problem?
>>>> Yes.  He can also send it through other mailing lists, just not the one
>>>> hosted by openid.net.
>>>>
>>>> >> And I assume other senders to the lists don't have this problem?
>>>> Unfortunately it does sometimes impact other senders, but it is
>>>> intermittent and hard to notice.  I noticed it happening to me in Jan, it
>>>> happened to Breno in March and has happened to Luke in April/May.  It may
>>>> well have happened to others as well, but like I mentioned its hard to
>>>> track.  However a message Luke sent today did not get marked as SPAM, so it
>>>> is inconsistent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Neither do I.  It seems strange that messages from Luke sent by
>>>>> OpenID.net mailman are different than others who mail through the same
>>>>> lists.  I also don't see anything specific in the headers from Luke's
>>>>> messages which seem to infer any sort of spam ranking.
>>>>>
>>>>> So unfortunately, I really don't have any useful suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric, I assume Luke can email you directly without a problem?  And I
>>>>> assume other senders to the lists don't have this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> --David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Kveton <scott at kveton.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I have no idea even where to start ... David?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Don Thibeau (OIDF ED) <don at oidf.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Is there anything the foundation can do to help with this?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> From: Eric Sachs [mailto:esachs at google.com]
>>>>> >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:08 PM
>>>>> >> To: David Recordon
>>>>> >> Cc: Scott Kveton; don at oidf.org; Luke Shepard
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: mail via openid.net marked as SPAM
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Luke just sent another mail that ended up being marked as SPAM by
>>>>> Google.
>>>>> >>  David/Scott, have you had a chance to look into that?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> >> From: Luke Shepard <lshepard at facebook.com>
>>>>> >> Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Motion: allow use of OpenID trademark on
>>>>> Google
>>>>> >> Code (part 1 of 2)
>>>>> >> To: "board at openid.net" <board at openid.net>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I’m fine with centralizing the libraries, but I wasn’t aware we were
>>>>> going
>>>>> >> to move to Google Code.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Will Norris, Brian Ellin and I spent this week getting the PHP
>>>>> libraries
>>>>> >> mounted onto Github. Personally I really like the flexibility of git
>>>>> and it
>>>>> >> was easier to get started and accept patches, so unless there’s a
>>>>> really
>>>>> >> compelling reason, I’d like to keep it here:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://github.com/openid/php-openid/tree/master
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> However, it has the same issues in that it’s using the OpenID logo,
>>>>> so we’d
>>>>> >> still need to go through this process I think.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 5/29/09 12:25 PM, "Chris Messina" <chris.messina at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> We've batted around the idea of moving the OpenID libraries to
>>>>> Google Code
>>>>> >> for some time [1] and I'd like to make a motion to make this happen.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> My goals are to:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 1.    increase the visibility of and convenience of access to the
>>>>> OpenID
>>>>> >> libraries
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2.    increase activity and community involvement in contributions
>>>>> to the
>>>>> >> OpenID libraries
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 3.    make use of more collaboration-friendly source control systems
>>>>> (GitHub
>>>>> >> can be used as a feeder to the mainline Google Code repo)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 4.    make sure that we have a transparent mechanism for recording
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> assigning bugs (OpenIDEnabled.com's trac setup returns a 404 for the
>>>>> login
>>>>> >> page: http://trac.openidenabled.com/trac/login, and an account is
>>>>> required
>>>>> >> to submit new tickets)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 5.    move away from darcs for simply checking out copies of the
>>>>> libraries
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 6.    etc.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So, this motion boils down to granting Google the right to use the
>>>>> OpenID
>>>>> >> trademark on the Google Code project.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If this motion passes, Dewitt will unlock the project and assign
>>>>> myself,
>>>>> >> Dave Recordon, Will Norris, Luke Shepard and Brian Ellin as the
>>>>> initial
>>>>> >> project admins.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I will commit to migrating the content on OpenIDEnabled.com to
>>>>> either the
>>>>> >> Google Code wiki or the OpenID wiki itself.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So, with that, I look forward to your +1's.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Chris
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> [1] http://openid.net/pipermail/board/2009-March/001964.html
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> board mailing list
>>>>> >> board at openid.net
>>>>> >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
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