[OpenID] mail via openid.net marked as SPAM

Fri Jun 5 16:54:47 UTC 2009

Just for the heck of it, I did a gmail search for "in:spam openid" and it
returned about 30 unread messages (that's just in the last 30 days).  Most
were from Luke Shepherd, but there was one from Eric Sachs on May 12th, and
one from Dirk Balfanz on Jun 2.

I discovered that my openid filters in gmail did not have the "never send to
spam" checked, so I changed that in gmail, but this still seems pretty odd.

fyi....I suggest all gmail users double-check their spam box for openid
messages.

david

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:

> At least Google's spam filters don't give any preferential treatment to
> Google employees. ;)
> Chris
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Breno de Medeiros <breno at google.com>wrote:
>
>> Just for the record, this particular email from Eric ended up in my spam
>> box.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Eric Sachs <esachs at google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >> Eric, I assume Luke can email you directly without a problem?
>>> Yes.  He can also send it through other mailing lists, just not the one
>>> hosted by openid.net.
>>>
>>> >> And I assume other senders to the lists don't have this problem?
>>> Unfortunately it does sometimes impact other senders, but it is
>>> intermittent and hard to notice.  I noticed it happening to me in Jan, it
>>> happened to Breno in March and has happened to Luke in April/May.  It may
>>> well have happened to others as well, but like I mentioned its hard to
>>> track.  However a message Luke sent today did not get marked as SPAM, so it
>>> is inconsistent.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Neither do I.  It seems strange that messages from Luke sent by
>>>> OpenID.net mailman are different than others who mail through the same
>>>> lists.  I also don't see anything specific in the headers from Luke's
>>>> messages which seem to infer any sort of spam ranking.
>>>>
>>>> So unfortunately, I really don't have any useful suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Eric, I assume Luke can email you directly without a problem?  And I
>>>> assume other senders to the lists don't have this problem?
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Kveton <scott at kveton.com> wrote:
>>>> > I have no idea even where to start ... David?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Don Thibeau (OIDF ED) <don at oidf.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> Is there anything the foundation can do to help with this?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> From: Eric Sachs [mailto:esachs at google.com]
>>>> >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:08 PM
>>>> >> To: David Recordon
>>>> >> Cc: Scott Kveton; don at oidf.org; Luke Shepard
>>>> >> Subject: Re: mail via openid.net marked as SPAM
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Luke just sent another mail that ended up being marked as SPAM by
>>>> Google.
>>>> >>  David/Scott, have you had a chance to look into that?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> >> From: Luke Shepard <lshepard at facebook.com>
>>>> >> Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Motion: allow use of OpenID trademark on
>>>> Google
>>>> >> Code (part 1 of 2)
>>>> >> To: "board at openid.net" <board at openid.net>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I’m fine with centralizing the libraries, but I wasn’t aware we were
>>>> going
>>>> >> to move to Google Code.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Will Norris, Brian Ellin and I spent this week getting the PHP
>>>> libraries
>>>> >> mounted onto Github. Personally I really like the flexibility of git
>>>> and it
>>>> >> was easier to get started and accept patches, so unless there’s a
>>>> really
>>>> >> compelling reason, I’d like to keep it here:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://github.com/openid/php-openid/tree/master
>>>> >>
>>>> >> However, it has the same issues in that it’s using the OpenID logo,
>>>> so we’d
>>>> >> still need to go through this process I think.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 5/29/09 12:25 PM, "Chris Messina" <chris.messina at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We've batted around the idea of moving the OpenID libraries to Google
>>>> Code
>>>> >> for some time [1] and I'd like to make a motion to make this happen.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> My goals are to:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1.    increase the visibility of and convenience of access to the
>>>> OpenID
>>>> >> libraries
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2.    increase activity and community involvement in contributions to
>>>> the
>>>> >> OpenID libraries
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 3.    make use of more collaboration-friendly source control systems
>>>> (GitHub
>>>> >> can be used as a feeder to the mainline Google Code repo)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 4.    make sure that we have a transparent mechanism for recording
>>>> and
>>>> >> assigning bugs (OpenIDEnabled.com's trac setup returns a 404 for the
>>>> login
>>>> >> page: http://trac.openidenabled.com/trac/login, and an account is
>>>> required
>>>> >> to submit new tickets)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 5.    move away from darcs for simply checking out copies of the
>>>> libraries
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 6.    etc.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, this motion boils down to granting Google the right to use the
>>>> OpenID
>>>> >> trademark on the Google Code project.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If this motion passes, Dewitt will unlock the project and assign
>>>> myself,
>>>> >> Dave Recordon, Will Norris, Luke Shepard and Brian Ellin as the
>>>> initial
>>>> >> project admins.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I will commit to migrating the content on OpenIDEnabled.com to either
>>>> the
>>>> >> Google Code wiki or the OpenID wiki itself.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, with that, I look forward to your +1's.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Chris
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [1] http://openid.net/pipermail/board/2009-March/001964.html
>>>> >>
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>>>> >
>>>>
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