[OpenID] OpenID 2.1 Identifier Types --> WAS [Discovery for Email like identifiers]

[Peter Williams]

No. I meant google.

Earlier, I used freexri.com to point my vanity xri (which is also an hxri) to a google op. Neither freexri.com as rp nor plaxo as rp could interact with google op, via the delegation.

In talking now about google, I was applying your logic why facebook can opt out of mandatory features. If they can, so can google (under my assumption of why my xri delegation to google is not working).

Perhaps im being unfair on google. Perhaps the xrd produced by freexri.com is non conforming, and that is causing the rp sites to misformat their openid auth messages.

In general, I could not care less about xri as ids: I care about secure discovery, scalable delegation of namespaces, and the properties for the uci vision. Unlike the dns, we have the opportunity to implement delegation of namespaces at the personal level. While dns could have done it (technically), "politics" ensured it never happened.

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From: Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:48 PM
To: Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com>
Cc: sappenin at gmail.com <sappenin at gmail.com>; Santosh Rajan <santrajan at gmail.com>; general at openid.net <general at openid.net>
Subject: Re: [OpenID] OpenID 2.1 Identifier Types --> WAS [Discovery for Email like identifiers]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com<mailto:pwilliams at rapattoni.com>> wrote:

Given the logic, should i guess now that google don't want the users to have op portability, and just "opted out" of that bit of discovery, intentionally breaking the delegation support in their op?

Do you mean Facebook?

But its interesting to see which bits of uci are unpalatable to large corporations.

This wasn't a big company decision; this was simply Luke's decision in trying to make sense of the OpenID spec.


2.1 will drop delegation and xri, is my prediction. Xri (and hxri) will go completely and supporting portability will be made optional.

I certainly would prefer that delegation not be dropped, and will fight to prevent that from happening. Delegation is apparently one of the more challenging aspects of the spec as well, but I think with XRD-based discovery, it can stay — and should.

I don't know that anyone has proposed taking that out, nor do I think anyone wants to take that out.

XRI specifically hasn't taken off relative to OpenID itself — and it seems silly to keep features that clearly are not being asked for in the marketplace.

Chris

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