[OpenID] OpenID 2.1 Identifier Types --> WAS [Discovery for Email like identifiers]

[Luke Shepard]

Thanks Chris.

Peter, OpenID support at Facebook is just a few engineers. I pushed out what I had and I've been working on the bugs, but wanted to do it in the context of the open source lib so my fixes could be contributed back to the community. The delegation support is a bug. XRI is a bug too, but a pretty low priority one as it adds complexity and I haven't seen more than a few people try it.

Why the constant allegations of bad intent? This is just how engineering works- sometimes stuff breaks and we iterateon it and fix it.

And yes, the spec is really hard to implement, with lots of use cases to support, so I did the parts I understood best first.


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From: general-bounces at openid.net <general-bounces at openid.net>
To: Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com>
Cc: Santosh Rajan <santrajan at gmail.com>; general at openid.net <general at openid.net>
Sent: Thu Jun 04 19:48:02 2009
Subject: Re: [OpenID] OpenID 2.1 Identifier Types --> WAS [Discovery for Email like identifiers]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com<mailto:pwilliams at rapattoni.com>> wrote:

Given the logic, should i guess now that google don't want the users to have op portability, and just "opted out" of that bit of discovery, intentionally breaking the delegation support in their op?

Do you mean Facebook?

But its interesting to see which bits of uci are unpalatable to large corporations.

This wasn't a big company decision; this was simply Luke's decision in trying to make sense of the OpenID spec.


2.1 will drop delegation and xri, is my prediction. Xri (and hxri) will go completely and supporting portability will be made optional.

I certainly would prefer that delegation not be dropped, and will fight to prevent that from happening. Delegation is apparently one of the more challenging aspects of the spec as well, but I think with XRD-based discovery, it can stay — and should.

I don't know that anyone has proposed taking that out, nor do I think anyone wants to take that out.

XRI specifically hasn't taken off relative to OpenID itself — and it seems silly to keep features that clearly are not being asked for in the marketplace.

Chris

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