[OpenID] mail via openid.net marked as SPAM

Thu Jun 4 23:52:35 UTC 2009

At least Google's spam filters don't give any preferential treatment to
Google employees. ;)
Chris

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Breno de Medeiros <breno at google.com> wrote:

> Just for the record, this particular email from Eric ended up in my spam
> box.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Eric Sachs <esachs at google.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Eric, I assume Luke can email you directly without a problem?
>> Yes.  He can also send it through other mailing lists, just not the one
>> hosted by openid.net.
>>
>> >> And I assume other senders to the lists don't have this problem?
>> Unfortunately it does sometimes impact other senders, but it is
>> intermittent and hard to notice.  I noticed it happening to me in Jan, it
>> happened to Breno in March and has happened to Luke in April/May.  It may
>> well have happened to others as well, but like I mentioned its hard to
>> track.  However a message Luke sent today did not get marked as SPAM, so it
>> is inconsistent.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Neither do I.  It seems strange that messages from Luke sent by
>>> OpenID.net mailman are different than others who mail through the same
>>> lists.  I also don't see anything specific in the headers from Luke's
>>> messages which seem to infer any sort of spam ranking.
>>>
>>> So unfortunately, I really don't have any useful suggestions.
>>>
>>> Eric, I assume Luke can email you directly without a problem?  And I
>>> assume other senders to the lists don't have this problem?
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Kveton <scott at kveton.com> wrote:
>>> > I have no idea even where to start ... David?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Don Thibeau (OIDF ED) <don at oidf.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Is there anything the foundation can do to help with this?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Eric Sachs [mailto:esachs at google.com]
>>> >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:08 PM
>>> >> To: David Recordon
>>> >> Cc: Scott Kveton; don at oidf.org; Luke Shepard
>>> >> Subject: Re: mail via openid.net marked as SPAM
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Luke just sent another mail that ended up being marked as SPAM by
>>> Google.
>>> >>  David/Scott, have you had a chance to look into that?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> From: Luke Shepard <lshepard at facebook.com>
>>> >> Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Motion: allow use of OpenID trademark on
>>> Google
>>> >> Code (part 1 of 2)
>>> >> To: "board at openid.net" <board at openid.net>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I’m fine with centralizing the libraries, but I wasn’t aware we were
>>> going
>>> >> to move to Google Code.
>>> >>
>>> >> Will Norris, Brian Ellin and I spent this week getting the PHP
>>> libraries
>>> >> mounted onto Github. Personally I really like the flexibility of git
>>> and it
>>> >> was easier to get started and accept patches, so unless there’s a
>>> really
>>> >> compelling reason, I’d like to keep it here:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://github.com/openid/php-openid/tree/master
>>> >>
>>> >> However, it has the same issues in that it’s using the OpenID logo, so
>>> we’d
>>> >> still need to go through this process I think.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/29/09 12:25 PM, "Chris Messina" <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> We've batted around the idea of moving the OpenID libraries to Google
>>> Code
>>> >> for some time [1] and I'd like to make a motion to make this happen.
>>> >>
>>> >> My goals are to:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1.    increase the visibility of and convenience of access to the
>>> OpenID
>>> >> libraries
>>> >>
>>> >> 2.    increase activity and community involvement in contributions to
>>> the
>>> >> OpenID libraries
>>> >>
>>> >> 3.    make use of more collaboration-friendly source control systems
>>> (GitHub
>>> >> can be used as a feeder to the mainline Google Code repo)
>>> >>
>>> >> 4.    make sure that we have a transparent mechanism for recording and
>>> >> assigning bugs (OpenIDEnabled.com's trac setup returns a 404 for the
>>> login
>>> >> page: http://trac.openidenabled.com/trac/login, and an account is
>>> required
>>> >> to submit new tickets)
>>> >>
>>> >> 5.    move away from darcs for simply checking out copies of the
>>> libraries
>>> >>
>>> >> 6.    etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, this motion boils down to granting Google the right to use the
>>> OpenID
>>> >> trademark on the Google Code project.
>>> >>
>>> >> If this motion passes, Dewitt will unlock the project and assign
>>> myself,
>>> >> Dave Recordon, Will Norris, Luke Shepard and Brian Ellin as the
>>> initial
>>> >> project admins.
>>> >>
>>> >> I will commit to migrating the content on OpenIDEnabled.com to either
>>> the
>>> >> Google Code wiki or the OpenID wiki itself.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, with that, I look forward to your +1's.
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris
>>> >>
>>> >> [1] http://openid.net/pipermail/board/2009-March/001964.html
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>> >> board at openid.net
>>> >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board
>>> >
>>>
>>
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