[OpenID] OpenID Discovery for Email like identifiers - Draft 0.1
David Fuelling
sappenin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 04:16:32 UTC 2009
Hey Santosh,
My appologies -- I wasn't "Laughing Out Loud" at you, or your effort. I
was instead laughing at the irony involved in this process because I
sometimes feel like I'm going in circles with the whole "email to OpenID"
effort.
For me, this effort started back before OpenID on the DIX protocol mailing
lists. Once that protocol was merged into OpenID, the effort continued with
months of discussion surrounding email as OpenID's, then debating emails as
1st/2nd class citizens, then me putting out a straw-man spec to convert
email's to openId's, then EAUT to be more generic (emails to URLs), then
webfinger (to take advantage of XRD), then "OpenID Discovery for Email like
Identifiers" (to codify webfinger), and then back to webfinger, and now back
to OpenID Discovery for Email like Identifiers (for IPR).
To me that's pretty funny, in a groundhog-day sort of way. I didn't mean
anything personal by it...sorry if my email was a bit ambiguous on that
point.
While this process has been tedious, I think every step of the way in my
"circular list" above has yielded positive things (just in case you were
beginning to think people had given up on trying to make OpenID work with
email addresses).
For now, my hunch is that webfinger is stalled because it relies heavily on
XRD, which is still being formalized. Once XRD comes out, I think you'll
see a lot more momentum around webfiner (or whatever it ends up being
called), as well as OpenID 2.1.
david
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Santosh Rajan <santrajan at gmail.com> wrote:
> sappenin wrote:
> >
> > LOL. So, is it fair to say this document isn't necessary?
> >
>
> This is not so funny if you consider the fact that this is "all you have".
> And is all the momemtum you have.
>
> > Assuming web-finger does what OpenID needs it to WRT to email
> identifiers,
> > then OpenID Discovery 2.1 could just reference webfinger.
> >
>
> The way things stand as of now. This document "IS" in effect your webfinger
> protocol. So you will be referencing back to this document!
>
> > Am I missing something?
> >
>
> A lot. After the initial euphoria the webfinger protocol seems to have lost
> steam after the 7th of May. As a matter of fact I didn't have to come up
> with this document if they were doing something about it.
>
> This whole thing is about "momemtum" whichever way you want to do it i am
> ready to help as long as there is momentum.
>
> So what can you do for building some momentum here?
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