[OpenID] Google's proprietary discovery extension?

[Peter Williams]

You have identified the truth tho: despite all the achievements it has
not made the leap from identerati to populist wave.

And that worries me. We are dealing with professional envagelists who
can engineer that wave, and are choosing not to.

  I suspect it's because of uci. What some folks want of openid is
that it's a simplified saml, which has no uci "built in" to its type
system design. There is an attempt to define uci as "controlled
release" rather than "op portability".



On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:16 PM, "Santosh Rajan" <santrajan at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Nice to know there is dialogue about "everyone getting along". It
> would be so
> much better if "everyone where getting along as one". Easier said
> than done
> I guess.
>
>
>
> Kaliya *-2 wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Santosh Rajan <santrajan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good question. I am not too sure about that either. But they seem
>>> pretty
>>> upbeat about welcoming new members and announcing new working
>>> groups. (i
>>> am
>>> on their mailing list).
>>
>>
>> Right - cause they are "good" at that kind of promotion, with like 5+
>> full-time-equivalent staff whose job it is to get attention for the
>> org...
>> yeah.
>>
>> They have lots of "new" working groups cause they are moving all
>> work from
>> Liberty Alliance (Trade organization) over to the "new org". Look
>> carefully
>> at who was not on board with the announcement - none of the web
>> portal
>> co's
>> involved in OpenID.  Not many people active in the identity community
>> actually blogged or commented about its formation or are now
>> talking about
>> all the "new" activity there.
>>
>> Activity continues to go on in Identity Commons working groups
>> without
>> much
>> fanfare but getting lots done (OpenID, Info Cards, OSIS, Project VRM,
>> Pamela
>> Project, Higgins Project etc).  We just had a meeting here at
>> Burton Group
>> Catalyst yesterday with OSIS (open source identity systems) that
>> has done
>> 5
>> major interops http://osis.idcommons.net in the last few years.
>>
>> You might find this informative re: some of the water under the
>> bridge
>> (they
>> asked Identity Commons to merge with Liberty Alliance and form this
>> new
>> org
>> last summer)
>> http://wiki.idcommons.net/IDTBD_Summary
>>
>> Having pointed you at this piece of history from last year, there are
>> dialogues about "everyone getting along" and representatives from
>> OpenID
>> Foundation (Don the ED), Identity Commons (5 stewards), Information
>> Card
>> Foundation (3+ folks)  and Kantara (Brett) were all at the OSIS
>> meeting
>> yesterday.
>>
>> -Kaliya
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Kaliya * <identitywoman at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Santosh Rajan
>>>> <santrajan at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After seeing all the activity and excitement at Kantara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "what excitement"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and Open web the past
>>>>> few weeks, this place looks like a graveyard.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SitG Admin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hehe! Shade for once I am going to agree with you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not my point, though. You say apathy; I see only the
>>>>>> *appearance* of
>>>>>> inaction, and have no idea what work may be going on in private
>>>>>> Working Groups that I don't hear about; obviously Google has been
>>>>>> active on its own; finally, there are the separate communities in
>>>>>> which complementary work is being done. If it all feeds back into
>>>>>> OpenID eventually, we have little basis for complaint. We might
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>> for more frequent progress updates, but I'm sure something will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> said when there is something to say ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, we can use this time to work on our own projects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Shade
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