[OpenID] Google's proprietary discovery extension?

[Eric Sachs]

The Google announcement of this new OpenID service has now been formally
posted at
http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2009/07/google-apps-openid-identity-hub-for.html

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Breno de Medeiros <breno at google.com>wrote:

> There is a proposal for a webfinger protocol based on standards (the IETF
> LRDD proposal and either (optionally signed) XRDS or the newly proposed
> (optionally signed) XRD format) that would allow users to type
>
> 'google.com'
>
> or their email address,
>
> and it would just work. It would also work for users of Google Apps for
> Your Domain, that have email addresses that are not @gmail.com or @
> googlemail.com. These users comprise a significant portion of our user
> base.
>
> Hopefully the community will be excited about these possibilities and will
> embrace a new vision for discovery that supports all users. We at Google
> have NOT been working on this behind the scenes. For instance, see John
> Panzer's blog post on webfinger at http://www.abstractioneer.org/, our
> involvement in the XRI TC (see the markmail links in Eric's message), and
> many emails that we have exchanged in the various openid mailing lists about
> discovery in the past several months. We have also added our names to a
> proposal for an OpenID discovery WG
> http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID-Discovery
>
> We invite all that are excited about possibilities with a new discovery
> mechanism (supporting email and xmpp addresses as OpenID identifiers,
> improving security of discovery, making it more flexible to work with hosted
> applications, etc.) to
> contribute with momentum to move this forward.
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Eric Sachs <esachs at google.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I haven't heard anything about this except from this one article.
>> In terms of more background on the evolving discovery standards, the best
>> information is actually on a blog run by Eran Hammer-Lahav at Yahoo who has
>> led a lot of the work in this space.  Here is a hyperlink which will show
>> you all the blog posts he has done about "discovery" and he has done a good
>> job of trying to provide background.
>>
>> http://www.hueniverse.com/hueniverse/discovery/
>>
>> Note though that this work is not specific to OpenID, but instead is to
>> try to provide a generic discovery mechanism that can be used my multiple
>> protocols.
>>
>> If you want to join some of the discussions, here are links to a few
>> threads:
>>
>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xri/200905/msg00025.html
>> http://markmail.org/message/rup4ikec43bk4wkg
>> http://markmail.org/message/5ckiqdzjguipa3qf
>>
>> We do still want more community discussions about discovery, and its
>> application to OpenID.  While these standards are being refined, we are
>> providing a proof-of-concept implementation of a next-generation OpenID
>> discovery protocol. While some of the details of this
>> proof-of-concept-implementation are different from what the eventual
>> standards are likely to look like (e.g., we're using XRDS instead of XRD for
>> discovery documents, and are using temporary namespaces), we believe all the
>> necessary pieces are there.  For nitty gritty details, see
>> http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/fedlogininterp/openiddiscovery
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Arnott <andrewarnott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Oops.... I sent my email to the wrong list.  See below.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Arnott
>>> "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the
>>> death your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Andrew Arnott <andrewarnott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> From
>>>> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_to_announce_major_identity_initiative_for_1.php
>>>>
>>>> OpenID relying parties will need to be redirected from the domain
>>>> provided at user login over to Google's OpenID service. In order for this
>>>> redirect to happen, all relying parties will need to start looking for a new
>>>> OpenID extension that Google has developed and implemented in conjunction
>>>> with one relying party technology, JanRain's RPX<http://www.janrain.com/>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Is this just FUD about Google?  I haven't heard anything about this
>>>> except from this one article. And Google's own OpenID for Google Apps<http://code.google.com/intl/ja/apis/accounts/docs/OpenID.html>page says nothing about a special extension.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Arnott
>>>> "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the
>>>> death your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre
>>>>
>>>
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