[OpenID] Google's proprietary discovery extension?

[Breno de Medeiros]

There is a proposal for a webfinger protocol based on standards (the IETF
LRDD proposal and either (optionally signed) XRDS or the newly proposed
(optionally signed) XRD format) that would allow users to type

'google.com'

or their email address,

and it would just work. It would also work for users of Google Apps for Your
Domain, that have email addresses that are not @gmail.com or @googlemail.com.
These users comprise a significant portion of our user base.

Hopefully the community will be excited about these possibilities and will
embrace a new vision for discovery that supports all users. We at Google
have NOT been working on this behind the scenes. For instance, see John
Panzer's blog post on webfinger at http://www.abstractioneer.org/, our
involvement in the XRI TC (see the markmail links in Eric's message), and
many emails that we have exchanged in the various openid mailing lists about
discovery in the past several months. We have also added our names to a
proposal for an OpenID discovery WG http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID-Discovery

We invite all that are excited about possibilities with a new discovery
mechanism (supporting email and xmpp addresses as OpenID identifiers,
improving security of discovery, making it more flexible to work with hosted
applications, etc.) to
contribute with momentum to move this forward.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Eric Sachs <esachs at google.com> wrote:

> >> I haven't heard anything about this except from this one article.
> In terms of more background on the evolving discovery standards, the best
> information is actually on a blog run by Eran Hammer-Lahav at Yahoo who has
> led a lot of the work in this space.  Here is a hyperlink which will show
> you all the blog posts he has done about "discovery" and he has done a good
> job of trying to provide background.
>
> http://www.hueniverse.com/hueniverse/discovery/
>
> Note though that this work is not specific to OpenID, but instead is to try
> to provide a generic discovery mechanism that can be used my multiple
> protocols.
>
> If you want to join some of the discussions, here are links to a few
> threads:
>
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xri/200905/msg00025.html
> http://markmail.org/message/rup4ikec43bk4wkg
> http://markmail.org/message/5ckiqdzjguipa3qf
>
> We do still want more community discussions about discovery, and its
> application to OpenID.  While these standards are being refined, we are
> providing a proof-of-concept implementation of a next-generation OpenID
> discovery protocol. While some of the details of this
> proof-of-concept-implementation are different from what the eventual
> standards are likely to look like (e.g., we're using XRDS instead of XRD for
> discovery documents, and are using temporary namespaces), we believe all the
> necessary pieces are there.  For nitty gritty details, see
> http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/fedlogininterp/openiddiscovery
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Arnott <andrewarnott at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Oops.... I sent my email to the wrong list.  See below.
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Arnott
>> "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death
>> your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Andrew Arnott <andrewarnott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> From
>>> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_to_announce_major_identity_initiative_for_1.php
>>>
>>> OpenID relying parties will need to be redirected from the domain
>>> provided at user login over to Google's OpenID service. In order for this
>>> redirect to happen, all relying parties will need to start looking for a new
>>> OpenID extension that Google has developed and implemented in conjunction
>>> with one relying party technology, JanRain's RPX<http://www.janrain.com/>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Is this just FUD about Google?  I haven't heard anything about this
>>> except from this one article. And Google's own OpenID for Google Apps<http://code.google.com/intl/ja/apis/accounts/docs/OpenID.html>page says nothing about a special extension.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Arnott
>>> "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the
>>> death your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre
>>>
>>
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