[OpenID] HTML-Based Discovery incompatibilities

[Peter Williams]

One of the things the Foundation could learn to do is cycle through certain themes in its marketing, rather than be looking for a magic bullet message that brings a wave of adulation from the masses.

If there are 12 themes, on per month, all the 30 or so insiders in this community who variously cross-link their blogs in some kind of personal reputation matrix can each post their semi-coordinated thought of the month on theme 1, 2... They will all ideally cross link to the foundations own blog, where the main message is delivered. The Foundation's own RSS aggregation feed can help readers at least get to the N speaker's contributions, and if convincing perhaps bother to interface to each that speaker's linknet into a world where on is now discovering who else that individual considers (and does not consider) to have reputable contributions on similar topics.

Month 5: the art of discovery in a vanity world
Month 2: Promoting interoperability in a culture also promoting value add
Month 3: Trust Networks: inband or out?
Month 4: Contrasting views of a "best design" for an OpenID Library
Month 1: Pseudonyms vs Correlation. Is there a middle ground?
Month 6: Outsourcing, Insourcing. Middleware?
Month 7: Reflections on competing websso approaches
Month ...


We do need to get beyond the use of viral evangelism and personal reputations as the community management technique - tools that clearly limit community dynamics. The medium has to become more accessible to folk who have no reputation here, never will have any, include those that don't deserve any (i.e. me), but yet must have an opinion when it comes to forming up the rules&regs that will characterize their private deployment goals. At the same time, since viral methods and blog notions were so clearly a motivating element of this movement, it might be appropriate to use those very cross-linking tools to help morph into the next phase.

-----Original Message-----
> From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Johannes Ernst
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:35 PM
> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Chris Messina
> Cc: OpenID List
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] HTML-Based Discovery incompatibilities
>
> Guys, this conversation seems to have been conducted on too many wrong
> feet.
>
> I hear two main arguments being made:
> 1. we need as clean an architecture as possible, for many reasons
> including security 2. it needs to be as easily adoptable as possible,
> otherwise, duh, there won't be adoption
>
> This is not a case of My Requirement is more important than Your
> Requirement. We clearly need both, and if we can't get both we might as
> well go home.
>
> So can I challenge you to turn the conversation to "and here are some
> great ideas how we can have BOTH at the same time?"
>
> Peace ;-)
>
>
>
> Johannes Ernst
> NetMesh Inc.