[OpenID] User-editable XRDS files?

[Breno de Medeiros]

Is this an interesting problem?

Advanced users can use XRI. Bloggers can use meta-links and other techniques
to delegate to various OPs that support delegation. What is the market for
user-editable XRDS until other features such as OAuth endpoints for
contacts, etc., are fully supported in XRDS?

For regular users, the big problem now is how to detect their OP
preferences. If we could assume that we could guess the user's prefered
identity and provider in any situation, and we had needs for more advanced
XRDS-supported discovery (i.e., beyond their OP choice), then this problem
carries with it real-world value.

When that day comes, I think allowing users to edit their XRDSes will not be
enough. They will want to have privacy controls about which parts of the
XRDS document are visible under what circumstances, possibly controlling
this via OAuth tokens.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com>wrote:

> Of course XRI does all this.
>
> But rather than force folk to  go the XRI path "merely" to get editable
> XRDS wit delegation entries that are then hosted by site other than a
> controlling OP, we can have wizards at webapps do the same.
>
> XRI should not be the only source of vanity websites. XRI should mainly
> sell itself on the portability benefits, not mere vanity XRDS
> hosting/wizarding.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
> > Behalf Of Peter Williams
> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:41 AM
> > To: Johannes Ernst; OpenID List
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID] User-editable XRDS files?
> >
> > Ive certainly found none.
> >
> > Now, none of them allow any delegation from the OP hosted XRDS files
> > either - that being something one does in the non-OP vanity URL/site
> > case (only).
> >
> > What we need is a openid-foundation hosted wizard tool: acting as RP,
> > pull several user XRDS's files from n OPs, and formulate a vanity XRDS
> > for folks to stuff on their web/file server. It can take as input an
> > existing vanity XRDS, so that it can regenerate the vanity XRDS in the
> > wizard, with amenedments.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Johannes Ernst
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:35 AM
> > > To: OpenID List
> > > Subject: [OpenID] User-editable XRDS files?
> > >
> > > Which OpenID providers do you know of that let users edit their XRDS
> > > files? E.g. to add additional OpenID providers, portable contact
> > > providers etc.?
> > >
> > > I came up empty, so I figured I ask.
> > >
> > > For OpenID providers: why do you / do you not let your users edit
> > those
> > > files? (Preferably with a nice GUI on top)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > > Johannes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Johannes Ernst
> > > NetMesh Inc.
> >
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