[OpenID] Eating our own dog food

Andrew Arnott andrewarnott at gmail.com
Tue Dec 15 22:11:47 UTC 2009


One way I've balanced the "easy to read" ideal with the "accurate" ideal is
to use tooltips.  I display the easy-to-read versions in text on the page,
but if you hover over it, you get the whole long claimed_id.
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1.
>
> Great points... we should definitely be showcasing how "cool" and "useful"
> OpenID can be — especially in cases like this. Exposing the inner workings
> (or limitations?) of the technology only works to reinforce people's
> stereotypes of OpenID — that's it's hard to use, confusing, and ugly (we're
> Specimen A for proving all those points!).
>
> Perhaps this is something that should be listed either on Get Satisfaction
> and/or UserVoice so we have it captured somewhere more public (sorry, but
> our mailing list archives are a beast to search and navigate).
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Johannes Ernst <jernst+openid.net@
> netmesh.us> wrote:
>
>> I just realize that the membership pages on openid.net show all http URLs
>> *without* the protocol. E.g the voting page lists the following candidates:
>>
>> mfrons22.wordpress.com
>> allentom.com
>> www.google.com/accounts/o…
>> bkkissel.myopenid.com
>> daniel.jacobson.myopenid.…
>> blame.ca
>> www.google.com/profiles/d…
>> =!BF81.FD97.C81B.B4E5
>> openid.jonathancoffman.co…
>> josephsmarr.com
>> =!477C.45CF.CAA7.A71
>> martin.paljak.pri.ee
>> www.google.com/accounts/o…
>> otti.clavid.ch
>>
>> If we continue to insist that http://XXX and https://XXX are two
>> different OpenIDs, we should not list them this way. (Personally, I don't,
>> but that was the majority view every time somebody asked.)
>>
>> I also question whether abbreviating OpenIDs is ever a good idea, or
>> whether printing an i-number instead of something human-comprehensible.
>>
>> Also, while we are on the subject, why not make them all clickable, so we
>> can learn something about the candidates? Remember, this is the original use
>> case for why http URLs as identifiers as opposed to any other identifier.
>> And for voting purposes, that makes every sense in the world as all of the
>> above http OpenIDs would lead to interesting pages about the candidates, if
>> they were clickable that is. The abbreviated ones aren't even copy-pasteable
>> ...
>>
>>
>> P.S. This is intended to be a bunch of bug reports against the app, not a
>> complaint. ;-) Didn't know where the bug tracking system was so I post it
>> here ;-)
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