[OpenID] [OpenID board] On the banning of Santosh

[John Panzer]

(bcc: Santosh, because I think that it's only fair to tell someone when
talking about them on a public list)

My posting of user stats to the list was one of the proximate triggers for
the behavior that led to the banning.  I had honestly hoped that it would be
viewed as constructive, objective, data-driven feedback, and I'm sorry
Santosh didn't take it that way.  At the same time, he owns his own words,
his response was over the top, not acceptable, and far from the first
offense.

To be clear, I've been flamed and verbally attacked far worse in the past,
even on technical mailing lists, and I mostly ignore it.  However, I'm more
concerned about the negative impact his postings have on the productivity
and overall tone of this and other lists.

I think that he has many interesting ideas and energy and I wish and hope he
will be a productive member of this technical community in the future.  I do
believe that people should receive a firm warning that their behavior is
unacceptable before the boom is lowered; I know that he has gotten messages
off-list about this, but I don't know whether he got a clear warning or not.
 I do know that there were on-list efforts to set expectations for civil
discourse and he didn't take those hints.

So, I'm not sure if I agree with David's exact verdict, but I very much
support that an admin/moderator take action in this and similar cases.  I do
believe though that justice should both be done and be seen to be done, and
I don't think it was in this case.  That troubles me and I hope we can
rectify it.

--
John Panzer / Google
jpanzer at google.com / abstractioneer.org / @jpanzer



On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) <
eddy_nigg at startcom.org> wrote:

>
> On 11/30/2009 06:32 PM, Brian Kissel:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Thanks to everyone for sharing their input so far.  Please do send me your thoughts directly and let's keep it off the list at this point.
>
>
> Why? This concerns all participants, I feel that taking it off-line doesn't
> any good either.
>
>
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