[OpenID] FreeYourID shutting down

[Kick Willemse]

Johannes,

A good example is Turkey, where Mobile Operator Turkcell (35 million users)
issues sim based PKI identities on mobile phones. Main  Within ten months of
their launch, twelve banks and two stock brokerages were providing mobile
signature services. The usage quickly
spread beyond financial services, including several large corporations, plus
government and health services. The number of ways you can use your Turkcell
Mobil Imza (mobile signature) in Turkeyare expanding constantly. Now you can
even submit your marriage application using this universal multipurpose
electronic ID. 

In addition to the mobile signature service fee revenue, Turkcell expects
reduced churn and increased customer loyalty by linking their
subscribers' identities to their SIM cards. The fee for a signature is a SMS
billed directly to the end-user.

There is even an integration with OpenID> http://www.sifreyok.com
(nopassword.com in Turkish)

I am working on a similar model for the Dutch market.

I wasn't aware of Nico's post and I think I have something different in mind
for the term IDsense. What I was referring to is a model where consumers get
some click revenue's every time some RP "clicks" on the consumers ID
profile. Like a website owner getting some click revenue when somebody
clicks on the google ads on his page. So what I suggest is that consumers
get paid (by the RP) for every valuable authentication they do at a RP. An
IDP could manage this IDSense type of revenue sharing. This might stimulate
consumers to get a digital identity with LOA 3/4.

>From your post on business models I suggest to make a distinction between
business to business Identity's and consumer identity's. I think in the
B-t-B there is proof for profitable businessmodels. Look at all the SSL
vendors and CA's issuing personal smartcards to accounting firms, lawyers
etc.. For the consumer market it is still very difficult, especially when
you offer it as a stand-alone business.  I think Turkey is an example, but
it is a value added service to their current mobile services, social
networks and banks could do the same. Like you refer to as Identity provider
as part of a larger product. But they do get extra revenues from the SMS's

I hope this clarifies, thanks for starting up the discussion with your post.


Kick 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Johannes Ernst [mailto:jernst+openid.net at netmesh.us] 
Verzonden: woensdag 26 augustus 2009 18:58
Aan: nieuwsgroep at evidos.nl
CC: openid-general at lists.openid.net
Onderwerp: Re: [OpenID] FreeYourID shutting down


On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:03, nieuwsgroep at evidos.nl wrote:

> In some countries people are willing to pay for online authentication,

Can you give specific examples?

> Another option is the IDsense way, where RP's will start paying for  
> my valuable credentials

What are you referring to here? Nico's post?
http://blogs.verisign.com/innovation/2007/10/from_adsense_to_idsense_or_why.
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