[OpenID] Facebook Cooperation with German Email Providers?

[Chris Messina]

I think that's what's important to keep in mind.
Companies have many more priorities than supporting "open" protocols. They
have customers with many demands — and if there is an open technology that
doesn't involve licensing fees — and works well — they'll use it, as they
did here.

If that same technology comes with a sub-par UI, they'll hide it away in the
background and layer on their own UX, at least until something better or
more universal comes along.

The same thing holds with OAuth — which Twitter unfortunately uses for
authentication and authorization, all in the same flow.

These adoptions hint at the challenges that companies are looking to solve —
and when they adopt these technologies in ways that don't jive with our
conception of them, we need to consider why that was the case, and rather
than merely complain about it, take steps to both improve the technology and
explain our perspective.

Chris

2009/8/25 Steven Livingstone Pérez <weblivz at hotmail.com>

> It's a small but significant step forward.
>
> Business-wise they'd never get the go ahead to just release OpenID to the
> wild.
>
> Moving in the right direction tho'.
>
> steven
> http://livz.org
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> From: pwilliams at rapattoni.com
> To: sccpffm at gmail.com; openid-general at lists.openid.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:46:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Facebook Cooperation with German Email Providers?
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> That is the question that many analysts are now asking; now there is
> something to bother asking about.
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> Is openid a movement that simply defined some bit of technology from which
> vendors build private authentication networks?
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> Or is openid an open standard that requires no vendor-vendor setup to let
> users interwork?
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> There are two things to measure: what the foundation says, and what one can
> measure as praxis of the larger corporate players.
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> *From:* openid-general-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:
> openid-general-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Carsten Pötter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:15 AM
> *To:* openid-general at lists.openid.net
> *Subject:* [OpenID] Facebook Cooperation with German Email Providers?
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> Yesterday German email providers Web.de and GMX released a press release
> stating that their users will be able to log in to Facebook using OpenID (
> http://faz-community.faz.net/blogs/netzkonom/archive/2009/08/24/facebook-chooses-german-e-mail-provider-web-de-and-gmx-as-first-open-id-partner-in-europe.aspx).
> Both email providers are subsidiaries of United Internet and dominate the
> German email market.
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> So far both providers offered users a "navigator" to log in to various
> social networks, online merchants,... However users had to provide usernames
> and passwords -> password anti-pattern. If I got things right, both
> providers have to become OpenID Providers now. Though why is there an
> explicit cooperation with Facebook?
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> Is Facebook eventually accepting OpenIDs?
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> Are Web.de/GMX and Facebook using any vendor specific APIs or extensions?
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> Anyone from Facebook here who can shed some light on the topic? Thanks!
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> Carsten
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