[OpenID] OpenID + Government

Peter Williams pwilliams at rapattoni.com
Wed Aug 12 02:22:56 UTC 2009


Can we also add saml (and saml2) on the list of websso protocols proscibed (for now) from making physical presence claims?

If so, problem solved. I simply noted infocard and openid were excluded, whereas saml, wsfed & Kerberos (& global platform) were apparently not.




On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:29 PM, "John Bradley" <john.bradley at wingaa.com<mailto:john.bradley at wingaa.com>> wrote:

Peter, Brett

As a member of Liberty, Kantara, ICF, and OIDF.   I can say that I have never seen any indication of Liberty plotting against openID or info-card.  (I do go to most of the secret meetings)

The issue with physical access is more one of not trying to boil the ocean.

There is real desire by real government RPs to use open technologies and work with commercial identity providers.  There are RPs I am working with who want this yesterday.

This first step is hard enough.  Many people have been working hard for many months.

One of the ways we have been able to make progress is by limiting the scope.

We could have done physical access, LoA 4,  p-cards and other things.

The initial program by the GSA is a start not an end to the process.

There will be changes to the initial profiles and additional profiles as time and requirements permit.

This first step is a scary amount of work,  give us time please.

John B.

On 11-Aug-09, at 5:04 PM, <mailto:openid-general-request at lists.openid.net> openid-general-request at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-general-request at lists.openid.net> wrote:

Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:43:29 -0700
From: Peter Williams <<mailto:pwilliams at rapattoni.com>pwilliams at rapattoni.com<mailto:pwilliams at rapattoni.com>>
Subject: Re: [OpenID] OpenID + Government
To: Brett McDowell <<mailto:email at brettmcdowell.com>email at brettmcdowell.com<mailto:email at brettmcdowell.com>>
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If the infocard stack is technically reputable, can you explain why an
accredited provider would be excluded from using it (and openid) from
making assertions of physical presence?

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