[OpenID] Proxying (with OpenSocial) through experimental.openid.net to promote OpenID

David Recordon david at sixapart.com
Mon Aug 10 17:31:11 UTC 2009


While this idea isn't brand new – Simon Willison ran idproxy.net for a  
few years that turned Yahoo! accounts into OpenIDs – I don't think it  
is a viable long term solution.  Rather, usage of this sort of  
proxying shows a userbase's desire to have their accounts OpenID  
enabled to log in elsewhere.

I would never want to see the OpenID Foundation run an OpenID Provider/ 
Proxy for wide usage.  We should instead be creating a healthy  
ecosystem with plenty of providers and consumers.

--David

On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:55 PM, SitG Admin wrote:

>> What don't you like?
>
> The centralization. It would make the OIDF's servers an appealing  
> target to those looking for Identity correlation.
>
> I've thought about it some more, though. It seems to me that the  
> opening here is only for OpenSocial sites where OpenID is impossible  
> (even by delegation), and the OIDF wouldn't be seeing the user's  
> activity from actual OP's, so attackers could only correlate  
> Identities from experimental sites the user was playing with (unless  
> they had logins with their own services, but that doesn't add much  
> to the OIDF's potential database). Furthermore,  
> experimental.openid.net really ought to be using SSL, so a savvy  
> user could easily bounce their (encrypted) connection around a proxy  
> or few before connecting, confusing even further the server's idea  
> of who a user was (and, its ability to associate them with any other  
> login). Relying on the average user to figure out proxies, though,  
> seems a bit much. Challenging them to follow a tutorial would chill  
> adoption, so perhaps just a warning (and maybe link to some stories  
> explaining what might happen).
>
> -Shade
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